We-Ko-Pa Casino Resort

Went with my 3 best golf buddies to play for 4 days in the Phoenix area. Played at the Whirlwind golf club, Southern Dunes, The Wildfiret golf club and then he Saguaro course for my birthday after hearing about how great the course was. The turf grass and greens were great.

The other courses all had GPS on the carts and had good sand on the bunkers.

I can't understand why We-Ko-Pa doesn't have those also. The bunkers are just dirt with lots of small pebbles and not well maintained . The course is rather difficult from the purple tees, so having GPS would be very helpful. For $155.00, I was expecting more.

I can be rather critical of golf course but this track is terrific. You'll enjoy wide open views of the surrounding Sonoran Desert, Tonto National Forest, and 4 Peaks Mountain (We Ko Pa). Golf holes contain outstanding strategy and difficult scoring conditions. The fairways and greens are always exceptionally maintained (although you can find faster greens). The bunkers currently need more sand. The course is very walkable and straight forward. All obstacles are visible but plenty of course knowledge can be gained by playing this course a few times. The course plays more difficult than the course rating may suggest. The desert is unplayable in most cases and if it were water this course would have a slope of 160. #18 is perhaps the most challenging finishing hole I have ever played. Par here will make your day!

Play Cholla too but be careful to check your yardage book on the Cholla course.

A great place to enjoy the day. With mountain views everywhere and not a home in sight, it is a great setting for a relaxing day.

Coore/Crenshaw seem to pride themelves on using the land as is with very little earth moving. The advantage is that the course looks like it has always been there. The downside is balls run from the fairways through the rough and into the desert without mounds or hills to keep your ball in play, and the sightlines off of the tee are a little more challenging.

The conditions were great, as the greens were fast and smooth. The bunkers were just ok. Not nearly as bad as the Cholla course (rocks, stones and pebbles), but they are still not stellar.

The only thing I did not care for regarding the layout was that the holes were either very short (300-320 yards par 4's) or crazy long (470-500 yard par 4's). I played the 6800 yard tees while my son played at 7,000 yards. One par three was an easy wedge at

115 yards, while another was 256 yards.

I know this is nitpicking, but I did find it a little unusual. Otherwise, a great track that is fun to play and worth a vacation round in great weather.

This is a great golf course. The scenery is stunning, with mountain views everywhere. It is the kind of course you want to play while in Arizona. The condition of the course was excellent from tee to green with the exception of the bunkers. The bunkers were hard and full of stones, pebbles and rocks. An unacceptable condition given the price you pay to play. I have heard they plan on a bunker refresh later this year, but it is too late for me. This would be an easy 5 star rating with good bunkers.

The layout is fun to play, and yet very challenging. It has a great mix of holes with tremendous variety. The greens were a joy to putt, as they were 12 - 13 on the stimp and very smooth. Have fun.

Favorite course in the valley as its a walkable course, forgiving fairways and stunning scenery. One of few courses where when waiting to hit or to putt you can stand back and just look around at the landscape for miles (or if an apache helicopter flies by or this time a couple of jets). Greens aren't the fastest but roll nicely, at least 3 holes are risk/reward par 4s, par 3s face all four directions and play different distances. (Hole 15 I could stand on that tee box and hit shots all day.) Booked using the We Ko Pass while its tougher to get a tee time we paid $99. Have played courses (including Cholla) at least a dozen times and we always know what we are going to get which is a great facility and a great golf experience. My only criticism is the sand in the bunkers was sparse in some areas which caused the club to bounce off the bottom of the bunker. Our family looks forward to playing this course every year. If you are looking to play a great desert course this it!

I prefer the Saguaro course over the Cholla. The Cholla is a bit too gimmicky with all sorts of target shots and hidden views. There are several holes that are just bad designs. Where you are penalized for great tee shots. If this is your type of golf, then you'll love the Cholla course but if you like to actually see where you're going, have a decent chance for risk/reward and like to play at a decent pace, the Cholla is not the course for you... I think the biggest problem with WeKoPa is the number of mediocre and / or beginners who play out there. They are both very difficult golf courses but they seem to attract a lot of tourists and beginners who really should not be playing a course of this caliber. And the result is 5 hours rounds and a whole lot of waiting... On the plus side, its fairly open in the summer as the tourists are elsewhere.

Bottome line: Nice course, great conditions, bueautiful views and a real challenge but not for the begniner or the short hitter.

Cholla offers one of the most interesting rounds of golf in Scottsdale. There's lots of thinking and decisions to be made during the round. There are two holes with split fairways (holes 7 and 10), another one with three bunkers in the middle of the driving zone (no. 9) and two short, drivable par 4s. There's also plenty of angles in play on a handful of doglegs. The course will close this summer for three months, while the club upgrades the infrastructure (new irrigation, new grass on the greens, etc.). The update will probably also reconfigure the controversial eighth hole, a dogleg par 5 with a cross hazard protecting the green. If the right changes are made to make the decision to go for it or where to lay up clearer, Cholla will get even better.

Simply the best public golf course in Arizona.

What makes the Saguaro great is Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw's style that features wide fairways and few forced carries so lesser players are not beat over the head, but still offers all the challenge good players can want via strategic design, angles, and tricky, slippery greens.

I played both courses in one day. Segauro is straight forward not very challenging design. Cholla is very unique. Some blind shots and some difficult par 3's. Course was in great condition, greens rolled true and pretty quick. Great views off in the distance. Approach shots are pretty tight and can be penalizing.
My only complaint would be the $. 175.00 to play here is a bit much but it is a very good golf course.

STARTED AT 10 AM AND WAS FINISHED THIS GREAT COURSE AT 2PM !. Joined a great a great husband and wife from Denver
Lisa played from the composite course , David and I played from the purple This course had everything its only a 35 min drive from North Scottsdale. Take Shea all the way to Beeline Highway, at 87 turn left. Well sign posted great looking clubhouse with friendly front staff and pro shops. Nice practice facility. Played the Saguaro course which gave me all that I could handle This course is not for the novice If you are a 10 pus handicap play from the composite tees. Lots of elevation changes and amazing scenery Take some form of camera . Was given a poster of the course This is a nice touch and will make a long winter more tolerable! The course was in amazing condition . The greens are not as quick as TPC stadium played 2 days ago. Lots of breaking putts Most putts seemed to break towards the valley.
The wind came up on the last two holes . I enjoyed all of the holes . The par three ninth a short hole was not an easy one . However it seemed to speed up the round and there was ample opportunity to have a nice snack at the turn . The traps can be tricky The sand is red composite I found a 56 degree wedge was quite effective in getting out with a little spin. Only, in three traps today and made nice recoveries
One long sand trap, allowed me to take a 4 hybrid and make a clean strike, stand tall no need to dig in here ! Shot 40 and then 39 on the back As a 9/10 handicapper I think the course is fair . The views on and off the golf course will make up for any shortcomings in your game This is must play in Arizona . Will be back to try the Cholla course which was being over seeded. . They allowed my wife to ride along for no fee . Thank you for a great golfing experience! p.s Lots of wildlife here .

These two courses are definitely worth the quick drive from Scottsdale. The practice facilities, golf shop, restaurant, and both courses were excellent. The Cholla course was definitely the more challenging of the two courses, but in my opinion the better course. If you are a low handicapper, the cholla course can really be enjoyable and rewarding, but high handicappers will definitely get frustrated. If you don't hit the fairway your ball will end up in the desert where it is almost impossible to find. The saguaro course, on the other hand, had much wider fairways. Although, the same problem with the desert does come into play. Nevertheless, the saguaro course was definitely easier. My only complaint about both courses was that there weren't any yardage markers in the fairways. If there was a blind shot into the green, there was no way to get your yardage as rangefinders can only work if the flag is visible. Other than that everything was great. I played at Troon North the day prior and noticed that the course mantenence at We-Ko-Pa was much better. The fairways at Troon were chewed up and looked dead in places. Here they were flawless. The greens did run very slow however. I left many putts short. If you are in the area, one or both of these courses are must plays. They give the other top courses in the area a run for their money.

Played Saturday with 12 low to mid handicappers mostly retired 50-60 year old law enforcement. It was our last of 4 day trip, and found your course to be nice shape, good lay out, my 4 some was following a 3some in our group and was in front of a 4some in our group. I pride myself in being a quick golfer, and always get my group in line with pace of play, but due to the course being new to us, we were slightly behind the group in front, but at least a hole and a half in front of group behind us. I was having a great time, 42 on front, drove close to several par 4s, great scenery, nice greens.......until a young (25?) ranger approached us on about the 12-13th hole. He
started out with a very dry, no personality question, "gentlemen, how's it going", but then
instructed us very rudely to speed it up as we had dropped a hole behind the group in front. I explained I had to take about 10 minutes to find my wedge to which he said nothing but his face said "I don't care". At that time my group of experienced golfers let it go, but commented he was rude and ridiculous to tell us to speed up, when we weren't slowing anybody down. Then 1-2 holes ahead, still out of sight of group in back of us, he came back, same no personality question,
" gentlemen how's everything" ..he must have seen an episode of COPs and was trying the good cop/ bad cop with him playing both sides# then started with what I can only describe a lecture to 4 paying customers 25-35 years his elder, pointing his finger at us and said to us, "this is your second and last warning, to speed it up!" At that point one of our group said " we can't play any faster" #that guy shot a 85#. I only wished I had though to ask, "or what?" I haven't been dressed down like that since I was 10. I let his ridiculous orders get to me and played the next 3 holes in 11 over, finishing
with a 94! The incident obviously ruined my round and put a bad taste in my mouth for the 5 day golf trip. I spoke to an older ranger and let him know how rude the kid was. After the incident I called each foursome and stopped them buying beer/water from the beverage girl, we decided not to eat in the restaurant, and refused to tip the bag guys. Hopefully I was able to stop about $500 in revenue. Too many nice courses in Arizona to put up this. Needless to say, the course is off our list for our next trip, and will tell everyone that I come in contact with in Florida at two different country clubs to which I'm a member, never to play at this course. This "kid" had no people skills, he seemed to be a "cop want to be" and let the power go to his head. Rangers need to be older and have some people skills.

The Saguaro Course is excellent. It is in a beautiful desert setting, with no homes, etc. bordering the holes or the property. I would have rated the conditions 5 star except that the tee boxes and fairways had just been mowed down in anticipation of aeration. Consequently, the fairways and tee boxes were yellow looking. This didn't affect play -- the fairways were otherwise in good shape and played firm.

The greens were in good shape and pose subtle challenges. They are not severe looking or acting, but nor are they easy or flat. Another way of saying that is that I could two putt every green, but one putts were tough.

The 1st and 18th holes are long par 4s. Otherwise, a lot of the par 4s were short, which I like. I am not a long hitter, but I do tend to be accurate off the tee with a 3 wood or less, so I would resist the temptation to bomb away and would hit a long iron/hybrid and find the fairway, leaving myself a wedge or 9 iron in on the short par 4s.

The facilities are nice, without being luxurious or such. Very comfortable and nice for "public" access golf, without the extravagance of an expensive private club.

The course was designed with walking in mind and I would like to walk the course the next time I play it. No one appeared to be walking when I was there, so that may be more of a late in the day kind of thing. The tee boxes are close to the preceding greens, except in one instance on the back 9.

I enjoyed this course a lot and I appreciated the risk/reward aspect of many of the holes.

I definitely will play again!

There are two courses at We Ko Pa, I played Saguaro. Wide fairways, rocks and desert for rough. Fairways where lush and green but very firm. Greens rolled true, about a 10, and they where also very firm. I had difficulty with keeping the ball on the green.

WeKoPa was a very nice track. Not a tight as you may think, but plenty of challenges along the way.

Great facility, staff and course.

I was on vacation, and was told this is a must to play. I would put this on the list. It is pricey, but when in Rome.....

I had read about this course and was happy to see it was in the rotation on our 2013 buddies trip - we played the Cholla course. The course itself was challenging and the desert views were fantastic. Looking forward to our 2014 trip, we will be playing the Cholla again and also adding the Saguaro track

I was really blown away by the beauty of this golf course.