RedTail Golf Center
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Formerly known as Progress Downs Golf Course.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 72 | 7107 yards | 74.4 | 135 |
| Blue | 72 | 6682 yards | 72.6 | 130 |
| Blue (W) | 72 | 6682 yards | 78.9 | 141 |
| White | 72 | 6267 yards | 70.6 | 126 |
| White (W) | 72 | 6267 yards | 76.6 | 137 |
| Red | 72 | 5551 yards | 67.4 | 118 |
| Red (W) | 72 | 5551 yards | 72.7 | 131 |
| Yellow | 72 | 4220 yards |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 74.7/136 | 378 | 174 | 374 | 429 | 408 | 183 | 646 | 402 | 511 | 3505 | 387 | 500 | 188 | 417 | 446 | 469 | 219 | 461 | 506 | 3593 | 7098 |
| Black/Blue M: 73.9/133 | 378 | 150 | 374 | 409 | 408 | 161 | 621 | 402 | 511 | 3414 | 387 | 484 | 188 | 417 | 415 | 451 | 202 | 437 | 506 | 3487 | 6901 |
| Blue M: 72.9/130 W: 79.0/138 | 353 | 150 | 322 | 409 | 394 | 161 | 621 | 371 | 493 | 3274 | 376 | 484 | 176 | 407 | 415 | 451 | 202 | 437 | 472 | 3420 | 6694 |
| Blue/White M: 71.7/128 | 353 | 131 | 322 | 386 | 394 | 141 | 589 | 371 | 493 | 3180 | 376 | 441 | 176 | 407 | 415 | 427 | 175 | 396 | 472 | 3285 | 6465 |
| White M: 70.9/124 W: 76.6/138 | 330 | 131 | 304 | 386 | 375 | 141 | 589 | 357 | 468 | 3081 | 359 | 441 | 160 | 391 | 372 | 427 | 175 | 396 | 447 | 3168 | 6249 |
| White/Red M: 68.8/120 | 330 | 111 | 304 | 348 | 375 | 120 | 498 | 357 | 468 | 2911 | 359 | 370 | 160 | 391 | 314 | 368 | 135 | 351 | 447 | 2895 | 5806 |
| Red M: 67.0/119 W: 72.3/127 | 315 | 111 | 280 | 348 | 341 | 120 | 498 | 316 | 429 | 2758 | 305 | 370 | 143 | 325 | 314 | 368 | 135 | 351 | 424 | 2735 | 5493 |
| Red/Yellow M: 63.3/110 W: 66.8/116 | 315 | 111 | 280 | 265 | 278 | 86 | 347 | 316 | 263 | 2261 | 305 | 264 | 143 | 267 | 314 | 250 | 135 | 260 | 424 | 2362 | 4623 |
| Yellow M: 61.5/103 W: 63.9/108 | 255 | 111 | 196 | 265 | 278 | 86 | 347 | 214 | 263 | 2015 | 243 | 264 | 143 | 267 | 251 | 250 | 89 | 260 | 325 | 2092 | 4107 |
| Handicap | 13 | 15 | 17 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 1 | 11 | 9 | 16 | 12 | 18 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 10 | 6 | 14 | |||
| Par | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 36 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 36 | 72 |
| Handicap (W) | 11 | 17 | 13 | 3 | 7 | 15 | 1 | 5 | 9 | 14 | 10 | 18 | 6 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 4 | 12 |
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Great Course
Pace of play was incredibly slow even for mid-day mid-week on the front nine. Much better on the back nine since the group in front of and behind our group only played nine holes.
Hard to tee off in late afternoon
It seems like Retail would rather get you to spend money in the pro shop and golf range then let you actually play golf. I live about a mile from the course, but since I've been by there to play after work or in the late afternoon by myself the last two times they wouldn't let me tee off. The starter, a young stocky blond man, told me "sorry we're all booked up for at least 45 minutes. I sat in my car and watched him play around the 1st tee and there was no one in sight for 10 minutes I've given up trying to playing there and have been having to drive to Heron Lakes or Eastmoreland golf course. It seems they have forgotten it's about PLAYING GOLF.
MARSHAL
I DID NOT ENJOY PLAYING HERE ON A WEEKEND. THEY PACK YOU EVERY 6 MIN
AND THEN THE MARSHAL RUNS AROUND AND TELLS YOU TO PICK UP THE PACES WHEN YOU CAN ONLY GO AS FAST AS THE GROUP IN FRONT OF YOU, WE GOT IN TROUBLE FOR GETTING THINGS FROM THE SNACK CART, TOTALY UN CALLED FOR, I WILL NEVER PLAY HERE AGAIN UNLESS IT'S A WEEK DAY,,
Red Fail
Great location with tons of potential. Unfortunately it appears that the greens fees ( collected hand over fist) are not being used to show the course any maintenance love. Greens were pock marked like an acne riddled middle schooler, bunkers either had no sand or some really fluffy sand with rakes sure to give even the toughest of hands a nasty splinter. So aside from the convenience, not worth the money.
Dissatisfied
Will never play that course again. We were made to play with one other person Very slow player and then they sent a single behind us and one behind him.
Let people play thru which slowed our game .
Pace of Play
We were instructed by the starter that there was a 15 minute rule per hole and we were totally fine that. We were also told a marshal would be out watching. Never saw one marshal. It took us over 3 hours to play the front 9 because of 4 drunk irresponsible adults who never should have been allowed on the course. They used profanity all day long, and after the 9th hole, I had to call the clubhouse to get someone out to talk to them. We finally played through and then were greeted again by these 4 who had no respect for the course and started driving their carts all over the course cutting through holes and cutting through the fairways while people where trying to play. I know you will run into just idiotic people, but if a course is going to instruct us to follow a time rule per hole, then they need to have someone out the entire day to enforce it. It shouldn't take 5 1/2 hours to play 18 holes of golf anywhere.
The course is not ready
The course is not ready to play. I should have just hit balls at the driving range. I'm still shell shocked by the amount of balls I lost. When I played the course, it was a marsh. Standing water on the fairways and my shots would plug into the ground causing lost balls on shots hit to the middle of the fairways. The ground is so wet the mowers can't cut on a regular basis. You will see long grass and very annoying white flowers that will trick you into thinking, it's your ball. I'm going to wait a couple months to play it again and will attempt to get 10 rounds in this summer.
Avoid This Course
Let me preface this with saying that I didn't just golf here once, this isn't an isolated event that I'm basing my review on. Over the span of the last 4 years I've played at Redtail more than 30 times. In the beginning, I didn't know any better. I thought 5 minute groups and 5 hour rounds were normal.
It turns out, they are not.
Outside of Mt. View I've never played a slower course in my life and one year I golfed over 123 times in the Portland-area. Redtail is just one of those extremely backed up courses that thanks to its proximity manages to get a steady flow of hackers from open to close.
Now, if it was just the 5 hour round I wouldn't even bother leaving a review. Sometimes slow golf is OK if the course is worth it. It's never great, but you probably wouldn't complain about Spyglass or Pebble or maybe even Bandon if you had to wait on the tee box for 10 minutes+ for the group in front to finish.
This isn't any of those courses. This is simply a suburban golf course that overcharges to play a crowded course covered in goose poo.
The staff I'm mixed on. Some of the guys in the pro shop are awesome, some of them (instructors) act a little stuck up. That has no real bearing on quality of the course. You pay, you go. However, what you pay to play at Redtail is top of the market, especially if you use GolfNow to book hot deals.
$30+ to walk 18 at Redtail? For $16 more you can get a cart at one of the best courses in Portland - The Reserve. For half that price you can get a cart at Mt. View. For the same price you can play twilight with a cart at Stone Creek.
All 3 are better options.
I've learned to avoid this course, no matter how convenient the location may be. It's just simply not worth the money or the frustration.
A great day at the course
Gotta love weekday golf in November on a beautiful day... pace of play was great, course was in good shape for November. The hot deal rate was great and the staff was super... even bought a new 3 wood from their sale after trying it and getting some great input from the staff.
Enjoyed the course
Enjoyed the round. Course is longer than I am used to so the par 4s were a challenge. The starter had us start on the back nine to help speed up the front. Course was wide open and by the time we got to the front 9 it was open too. Little over 3 1/2 hours an Friday morning. Plan to go back next time we are in town
Enjoy life
'Somedays Red Tail might play slow or prove frustrating but the beauty is worth it if you can be patient. The walk is nice with a cart but would be too challenging for those not in decent condition. This is a great place for newcomers to the area with some club play available and a teaching staff that creates devotees out of duffers.
Good layout
Good condition for the value, nice scenic area right in the middle of city.
Poor condition
This is the first time that I played this course in a few years. The condition of the course was the worst that I have seen in the Portland metro area. The greens were actually is great shape. The tee boxes and the fairways were terrible. The tee boxes were rough and not level, the fairways had many spots that were just plan dirt. The thing that really got me was that they are still charging full price for a course in such bad shape.
Tee Time
I have played this course before and enjoyed the course. This last Saturday I showed up early to hit a bucket and warm up for my 7:20 tee time only to be told...very condescendingly...that we would start at 8am in a "shotgun" start. My buddy and I had to leave the course by 11:30 so this did not work...nor did it make any sense to me. The golf "pro" on duty was of no help and we left without playing. A simple courtesy call of a change in tee time would have made a world of difference. If I showed up 40 minutes late for a tee time I am guessing they would frown upon that...so why treat your guests that way? Disappointing.
Happy Father's Day!
I took my significant other here for the Father's Day round. I enjoyed the course, and the staff was incredibly friendly and helpful. We had dinner afterward at the Stockpot restaurant on site A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!
Confusion and not helpful.
I played Red Tail many years ago when it was Progress Downs, I hadn't taken the time to play since it was remodeled. I booked through golfnow and when I got there and showed them the confirmation email the girl said she didn't know how to change the rate. She asked another young lady who kinda acted like I was a inconvenience for questioning the full. She then asked a guy about it all the while I am standing there showing them my booking. He told me flat out he couldn't honor that rate, their system wouldn't allow it. I was still given a discount but it was higher than what golfnow booked it for. It was only a couple bucks so not worth the haggle, but there was no sense of helpfulness at all, they all seemed very irritated with me. Now for the course. I found to layout to be quite nice the fairways were fair providing good lies, the ground underneith was a bit hard though. The greens on the other hand I didn't like at all. They were smooth but they felt like walking on a scotch brite pad and pitted like it too. I didn't feel like you could roll the ball instead it was more hitting the ball to get it to roll. Made for tough lag control. Knowing that now though I would play with a different mindset. This course really encourages conservative play, but I think plays better with an aggressive mindset especially off the tee.
Course can be good if pace of play is monitored better.
I like the course lay up and the challenge of every hole. Mike, the starter was very friendly and welcoming. But he players ahead of us (foursome with carts) were extremely slow and we kept waiting for maybe more than 15+ minutes in every hole for them to finish. They were clueless about letting us play thru. Tim, the marshall have asked them to hurry up and keep the pace but after the 13th hole (4 hours now). We gave up. The Marshall (Tim) told us to ask for a raincheck which was rudely denied to us. Not a smile or an apology.
This course was challenging!
Excellent round on Sunday. Paired up with a delightful couple Steve and Jan. We thoroughly enjoyed the day. Wish we had booked earlier because we had to leave after the 15th hole because it was starting to get dark. Challenging course. We'll definitely come back.
Thank you!