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3.2
433 Reviews (433)
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4 Stars
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3 Stars
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2 Stars
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1 Stars
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Conditions
3.9
Value
3.2
Layout
4.1
Friendliness
3.6
Pace
3.1
Amenities
3.5
58.1%
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3.5
2 Reviews (2)
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Conditions
3.5
Value
3.5
Layout
4.5
Pace
3.0
Amenities
3.5
StaffFriendliness
3.5
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2.6
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Conditions
3.6
Value
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Layout
4.0
Pace
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Amenities
3.0
StaffFriendliness
3.0
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About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

Reviews

3.2
433 Reviews (433)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 8
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 36
Undulating Greens 21
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 22
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 39
Convenient to the City 39
Near Local Attractions 15

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Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
First Time Playing

Awful pace of play.

The course itself was not bad. Big fairways, but not much room to miss fairways. Bunkers were fine, greens were not the worst. Good undulations on some. Pace of play was absolutely awful. Started as a 2 some paired with another 2 some who had to leave on 12 because we got so far behind. Ended up being a 5 hours round. No rangers in sight. Bev cart staff very unfriendly. We played at a discounted rate (over 50% off) that we would not pay again to play the course. Tons of wildlife (gophers) that seemed cool to start off on the first hole or two, but became disgusting after the first few holes because of how many there were. Had high hopes and was severely let down due to the pace of play alone.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Great Golf Facility

The Talking Stick golf facility is one of my all-time favorite place to play golf in the world. They have 2 great courses, both designed by the Crenshaw-Coore architectural company and I like both of them equally. The staff (pro-shop, starter etc) are very professional and welcoming. Since I was going to be in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area for 16 days over Christmas, I bought an All Inclusive Card which gets you discounted green fees, one free round and free breakfast/lunch with a paid round. So, I played 3 times (and wished I could play more!). The first time I played at this facility was in 2007 and I try to play every time I visit my family in Phoenix.

100% recommend this facility (either course).

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap Don't know
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
First Time Playing

6 hour round

Pace of play was atrocious. They overbooked the course like crazy. No ranger to be seen on the course, they clearly didn’t care.

Conditions Excellent
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
1.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Would Not Recommend

First and for most, only the range was open, but only for a short time. The putting green and chipping greens were closed. The starter was letting groups of 8 go off, slowing the entire course down. I recall seeing 4 groups waiting on a par 3, on the 3rd hole.
My tee time was for 1:00 pm (Before Twilight). After waiting on the third tee box for roughly 40 minutes just to tee off, the group behind us let us know that they had two groups of 8 behind them.
We finished the front nine in roughy 3.5 hours.
The beverage cart services, although having 2 carts in operation, took forever. We didn't see her until the 8th hole.
We decided to keep going and push it. The groups behind us gave up because it was getting late.
We ended up getting through 14 holes, not finishing our round.
That is uncalled for when we teed off at 1:00 pm.
Completely ridiculous.

It was my first time playing this course, and unfortunately will be my last.
I will not play this course again, and don't recommend this course.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing

Great Pace of Play

It was a great 4 th of July morning. The early tee time made for fast greens nice fairways. Pace of play out or this world. No one in front or back pushing or pulling us. Just an all around great morning on a great course. Can’t wait to play the North course again.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 26
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Previously Played
Perfect weather

Nice well maintained resort style course

Had a free golfnow round so value was excellent. Probably would not return at the going rate of mid $100's for a couple of reasons outlined below. Well maintained fairways, tees, and greens. Excellent sand in the numerous bunkers. No water on this "north" course.

On the negative side, greens were very flat and typical resort style. Also, all the holes basically were the same layout so none really stood out. The need to do some rodent control as the place is literally crawling with gophers.

Conditions Excellent
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Great Course, lots of fun!

We had a group of buddies travel to AZ for a golf trip and to watch the WM Open. This was our 3rd course and did not disappoint. Course was in perfect shape and provided incredible views. Staff was above and beyond friendly from the start. Fairways are pretty wide open, but you will be penalized if you get too wild. Greens are fairly big, and very easy to 3 putt if you land on the wrong side. Would recommend and will come back.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Used cart

Friendly, Fun and Easy to Find

I cannot say enough about Talking Stick Golf Club from the moment we arrived till the time we left, friendly and welcoming. The pro shop was well stock and the merchandise nicely displayed. The staff extremely professional and efficient getting the morning rush of golfers checked in and out the starter. On the day we played there was a junior tournament so the range and putting green was busy, we still managed to warm up and make our tee time. The starter gets five stars for his calm and friendly approach. After 18 holes on the O'odham course, we enjoyed lunch in the restaurant and managed to get out for another 18 on the Piipaash course. All in all the two courses are in exceptional shape there are a few holes with water hazards on Piipaash. The greens roll true and are medium to fast speed. I highly recommend either course for any level of golfer. The blended tee option is perfect for the average golfer. The scenery and surroundings are breathtaking. Thank you Talking Stick and keep up the excellent work.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
Incentivized Review
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Course In Grady Shape

The clues was in excellent shape and we throughly enjoyed ourselves. We have family down from Canada and they have a blast

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Very fun experience on a nice course

Course was in great shape and the set up of the entire facility just made a lot of sense to me. Very glad I went and will go again if I get back in the area.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great golfing experience!!!

Fantastic views, amazing condition !! Friendly staff. Overall great experience.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Nice Course Great Conditions

Conditions were great especially the greens. No issue on conditions and pace of play. The staff did a great job and all were pleasant and I would definitely come back.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
Incentivized Review
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Best course conditions in Phoenix

The fairways and greens are in great shape. Also found, much to my disgust, that the sand traps are in great shape with soft, deep sand.
The fairways are wide and forgiving and there isn't any water on the O'odham course.
The staff were very helpful in getting me set up. I was greeted at the range and given a verbal outline of how the morning would progress until tee time.
Overall a very good experience.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Definite stop in Phoenix, AZ

Incredible course conditions for December Fairways so we’ll kept, large greens very well manicured. We enjoyed our round and would definitely play here again!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
Incentivized Review
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Checked most of the boxes

First time here and although the course wasn’t memorable from a design standpoint, it checked most of the boxes for me. We were the 3rd time off and played in 3:50. Didn’t see any marshals . Conditions were better than average. WIDE OPEN fairways. Great option for the average player. No GPS on carts but most holes had obvious landing areas.
When i can play 18 in under 4 hours on a Sunday at a daily fee course , I’m happy. It’s worth $100 in season. Staff very friendly.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 42
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
Incentivized Review
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 1000 Contributor
First Time Playing

Finally played Talking Sticks

I’ve been golfing in the valley for years and avoided teeing it up here for years. Colleagues had said it was flat and pretty much uneventful.. Yes it’s a pretty straight forward course with little in elevation change. That said it’s in flawless condition the greens were quick and to me difficult to read.. Great view and not a house lined track. Overall fun to play and forgiving fairways so you can let the driver go. Enjoyable day.overall

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 14
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

A good day

Staff and range were excellent. Design is not exciting but a very good resort course.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
Incentivized Review
4.0
First Time Playing

A perfect course to start a golf trip on.

Played the course for the first time and was very pleased with the layout and condition. I hadn’t played for about two months and it was a great track to play after a lay-off. Fairly wide fairways and receptive greens that rolled true. The staff in the pro shop and the starter were warm and welcoming.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
Incentivized Review
4.0
Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

TSGC North Course

I played the Talking Stick North Course which is my favorite of the 2 18's with its wider fairways, and longer holes. The course was in excellent condition. I recommend this course and this club to anyone. If you are a local and haven't signed up for their players card you should do so since it includes both breakfast and lunch with your round, and if you are going to be in town for the winter or a number of time a year I would also recommend purchasing the players card.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 90
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
Incentivized Review
5.0
Top 250 Contributor
Previously Played

Talking Stick oodam Course

This course is a scenic and challenging track. The fairways are well maintained and surrounded by native grass areas which are considered off limits. The greens are fast and tricky to read. The bunkers are among the few with aactual sand in them so playing out of them is easier. There are natural pitfalls incorporated in the lengthy fairways.
The practice area is well stocked and maintained. The 19th hole is well served and staff are veryfriendly, helpful, and well groomed. The resort itself is close by and the restaurants are amazing, it is a pleasure to play this course and make use of the facilities. I would recommend anyone try it.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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