Thundering Waters GC: #18, #9
Aerial view of the 18th and 9th holes at Thundering Waters Golf Club
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4.0
876 Reviews (876)
5 Stars
296
4 Stars
400
3 Stars
114
2 Stars
35
1 Stars
31
Conditions
3.6
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.2
Amenities
3.7
85.3%
Recommend this course
746 out of 876 reviews
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4.1
13 Reviews (13)
5 Stars
5
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4
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4
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0
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0
Conditions
3.6
Value
4.5
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.7
100.0%
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13 out of 13 reviews
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3.9
82 Reviews (82)
5 Stars
25
4 Stars
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Conditions
3.5
Value
4.0
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.3
Amenities
3.7
StaffFriendliness
4.5
81.7%
Recommend this course
67 out of 82 reviews
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Course Highlights
The course layout uses natural terrain beautifully, delivering a challenging and varied round that consistently earns high marks from recent players. Friendly staff and a smooth pace of play make this an excellent value for the experience offered.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Par 72
Length 6530 yards
Slope 143
Rating 71.8

Thundering Waters Golf Club, so named for its proximity to the Canadian Horseshoe Falls, has a unique layout that combines a parkland course with the tricky elements of a heathland golf course. There is an interesting combination of drivable par 4s and scenic par 3s that will provide a formidable test for even the most skilled players. The golf course first winds through heavily wooded patches and then finds its way to rugged hills dotted with thick fescue where true links-style holes with deep bunkers and large, undulating greens await you. The layout also features several doglegs and more than 100 bunkers strategically placed throughout. Water hazards come into play on 10 holes. Thundering Waters Golf Club was Canada's first John Daly signature golf course.

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Course Details

Year Built 2005
Golf Season Year round
Architect John Daly (2005)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS Yes
Pull-carts Yes
Caddies No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range No
Teaching Pro No
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Metal Spikes Allowed No
Walking Allowed No
Dress code Proper attire is required.

Food & Beverage

Bar, Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities
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4.0
876 Reviews (876)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 16
19th Hole Scenic Views 7
Patio Dining 7
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 54
Water Hazards 42
Undulating Greens 34
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 34
A Weekend Splurge 26
Locals 25
This Course's Location is:
Convenient to the City 44
Near Local Attractions 41
Worth the Drive 23

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Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing

Nice layout

Enjoyed the course really need to know where to place the ball a lot of trouble can be had

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Commented on 07/09/2015

Kd18k,

We're happy to hear the course presented a unique challenge, The Lion would be happy to hear that. We hope to see you on the course again soon!

Played On
Reviews 37
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Average weather
Used cart

Good for one-night getaways

We had to wait like 10-15 mins at every hole in the back 9 becuz of a small tournament going ahead, which was a brand new experience at this course, but, other than that, it was a good once-in-a-while getaway in the Niagara Falls area. I believe this is one of the best courses when you feel like going out of town and getting some different air.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
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Commented on 07/09/2015

Windancer,

We're humbled to hear you enjoyed yourself and always appreciate a good review from a Golf Advisor top contributor. Sorry you got stuck behind a tournament on the back. Come back and get some air any time!

Played On
Reviews 21
Handicap 15-19
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

daleys dud

not what it use to be according to people I know that have played there previously

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 07/09/2015

Thank you for the review. We're always looking to improve the course and all questions and comments are taken into serious consideration. We hope you'll come back and give us another shot sometime soon.

Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Average weather
Used cart

Sand Traps are a disgrace

The sand traps are a JOKE (some had no sand and others were unplayable) and the tee blocks are in terrible condition. For the middle of June there should be no excuses for these deficiencies. The fairways and greens are in good shape but the charge to play is excessive for the overall condition of the facilities. The staff were friendly. The GPS apparently doesn't work on most golf carts which is poor.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 07/09/2015

Kellydenis,

I'm sorry to hear the course was not up to your's or our standards. We'll be taking a closer look at the bunkers and tee boxes you mentioned. Thank you for the review and we hope you'll come back and give us another shot when you're in the Niagara area

Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Variety of holes

Although wet from 3 days of rain still accessible in fairways , greens drainage great . Hole variety still challenging - pay attention to yardage markers - they work. Worth the dollar.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
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Commented on 06/18/2015

jonesy12,

We are glad to hear you enjoyed your time at Thundering Waters. We strive to offer a challenging and well-maintained course. We hope you'll come play again.

Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Previously Played
Fair weather
Used cart

awful

This course is absolutely awful for the 68 bucks we paid.
No driving range anymore, the bunkers have not been groomed in a very long time. Over grown, not groomed or cleaned. One year there was actual modelling clay in them. Terrible.
There wasn't a marshall on the course and the pace of play was slow as slow can be. There wasn't any need for it as the group in front of us was at least a hole or maybe a hole and half behind.
Oh, and we had to ask for a cart that had GPS. Not all the carts have it, and the ones that do have it apparently don't all work. This coming straight from the starters mouth.
3 years ago I had a cart that the emergency brake didn't work and I was told to park the cart on flat ground.
We are surprised that John Daly would agree to have his name associated to this course.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Poor
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 06/18/2015

bwll777,

We're sorry to hear that you did not enjoy your time on the course. We're taking your comments into serious consideration. We work to improve the course every day and we hope that you will give the course another shot soon.

Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Was a desirable course years ago-not any more!

Very, very disappointed that this course has,been let go. Years ago it looked, played,and,was maintained like the advertised photos. There is minimal upkeep of the course, no nice white sand bunkers,anymore, weeds and any left over dirt from construction perhaps! It is only moderately challenging now that it is so shortened. Still a shot makers course and I enjoy the challenging of having to "place the shot". 4 people asked,for their money back, slow play; 1 young guy had to be,greeter, starter, took money in pro shop. I don't mind paying the price for a morning coffee..I do mind that I had to chase around for someone to get a coffee and even then the pot,wasn't on. This course has gone off the radar of what,you must play. There,are,better,around at,better prices!

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Moderate
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Commented on 06/11/2015

Thank you for the comments,

We are sorry to hear your experience here at Thundering Waters was not what you, or we, wanted it to be. Please come back and see us again.

Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Poor weather
Used cart

Nice course, staff needs some help

Played here twice now (3-4 years apart) and have had issues upon arrival both times. First time I arrived for a 6:30 tee time (prebooked and paid online) and the front gate was locked and couldn't get in the driveway 15 minutes before my tee time. 2nd time playing last weekend in May and arrived at 6:45 for a 7:30 tee time and there was staff there but they didn't have a key to the proshop because the person didn't show up for work. The person who was there was really nice about it but still, they had tee times online starting at 6:30 and the guy with the key doesn't show up?
Weather was poor (raining and cold) but enjoyed the round, I like the course and it was in good shape. Food and Beverage prices are a little ridiculous. Cost us nearly $6 for 2 coffees and they were K-cups.
GPS screens are still on the cart but they don't work. I asked the starter to turn ours on and was told "no they don't work, that's why we don't advertise GPS anymore." They should take them off the carts then.
I can forgive some things as the course was in good shape, but its very frustrating about staff not showing up, especially since its happened to me twice now.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Friendliness Poor
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
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Commented on 06/11/2015

tmedlyn2,

Thank you for the comments. We are glad you enjoyed the course. We will look further into your issues at the Pro Shop.

Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Very Nice

The course and it's facilities and staff are great. No complaints at all, I like to play here at least 3 or 4 times a year and it never lets you down. Always a great experience

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Very poor value

This course is more pricey than others in the region, but the course conditions are poor, particularly the tees and greens.The course design by John Daly is tricked up and you are going to lose a lot of balls if you are not familiar with it. The carts are equipped with GPS, but most of them do not work. We tried to exchange a cart because the GPS didn't work and the attendant stated that they didn't have one that worked. No one would play this course a second time.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 06/11/2015

Thank you for your comments,

We're truly sorry you had a bad experience. The GPS is something we're trying to improve. We can be confident there will be a solution in the near future. We hope you'll come see us again.

Played On
Reviews 16
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Dissapointing

The welcome at the bag drop and the pro shop was excellent and friendly.

The pros: the staff, moderately challenging course
The cons: No driving range, the traps and tee boxes are in dire need of upkeep and maintenance, the clubhouse cafe ran out of different items, and this was a slow day.

The photos you see of the course were taken in better times.

We teed off at 11:30 and by the time we reached the half way house on the 11th hole (second time passing it out of four) it still was not open.

Used under par vouchers and glad we did I would not have wanted to pay more than we did.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

very surprised

I have played this course many times over the last few years, this was the first time this year. They are letting it go! Fairways are filled with bare spots and clover, seond cut might as well be deep rough, greens actually had dadandelions growing out of them, bunkers were hard sand and bunker egdes had not been cut in at least 2 weeks! The worst part of this course were the tee boxes. 16 of 18 looked like the image i have attached. I loved this course for a long time, but they have obviously stopped spending money on the things that matter most to the customers who love to play a challenging well kept course. They did however keep the green fees the same. Will not go back this year. Oh and the turn around clubhouse (lionsden) was closed until 2pm when they had a tournament starting. Told me where their priorities were. Pace of play however was very good.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Thundering Waters is quite possibly the most beautiful course in Niagara

The overall shape of the course is fantastic except for the greens. The greens looked diseased and were cut very shaggy which made putting difficult.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Great price for a great course

Great overall considering still early in the season.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 94
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 1000 Contributor
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

great deal

Spring golf in Canada with fuzzy greens . Enjoyable

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 32
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played

Better than most. Top 10 in Niagara.

I'd give TW between a 4 to 4.5. Unfortunately I played it before the renovations to accommodate housing and it was a beast then. With many shorter holes now some of the teeth are gone from this Lion. I still have it in the top 10 in Niagara but sadly just outside the top 5. it's wouldn't be fair at this time of year to comment on conditions but it was in great early shape. Historically conditions are high end though. Some neat challenging holes, there are a few where you can drive the green over water or take the smart route. 9 and 18 are great holes. The staff was very friendly in comparison to most.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Pretty course...fun to play

A great place to play. Pace was good and not overcrowded
In great shape for early play. Greens a bit long but probably due to much rain the previous day.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Course was great

For it being so early in the season the course was in great condition.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great Course

The fairways and greens were in excellent condition. The course was challenging and long. The staff are extra friendly .

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Bring your bunker game here, you'll probably need it

This course has alot going for it - great property; lush
fairways and fast, true greens. Course is in very good shape seeing the amount of play it sees based on the condition of most tees. Challenging off the tee and greenside with the amount and depth of the bunkers. There's a chance once in some bunkers just getting out in 1 shot is a shot well played. Greens are large and fast with plenty of swing but very true. Nice variety of par 3's and shorter par 4's. 9th & 18th are certainly their signature holes and the toughest requiring your best tee shots of the day. Very enjoyable, a good score had be had if you avoid the bunkers.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
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