Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
777 Reviews (777)
5 Stars
326
4 Stars
283
3 Stars
107
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
86.1%
Recommend this course
646 out of 777 reviews
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4.5
53 Reviews (53)
5 Stars
37
4 Stars
9
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.2
Layout
4.4
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.8
84.9%
Recommend this course
45 out of 53 reviews
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4.3
98 Reviews (98)
5 Stars
60
4 Stars
22
3 Stars
7
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.6
84.7%
Recommend this course
83 out of 98 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
777 Reviews (777)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Reviews 14
Skill Beginner
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
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Reviews 9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played

The greens

This is a fun layout with great practice area. Fairways and tees are perfect. But... the greens just don't roll. They even tolled them the day we played. I wanted to try it again after a few months to see if anything had changed. Unfortunately no. I get this is August in AZ and you need to protect them but they are like Velcro. On the plus side there are no bare spots you will see elsewhere.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Scottsdale

Course was average not some thing I would pay a lot for a round it had no water hazards or challenges

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Wide fairways

We stayed at the Talking Stick resort so I played the North course Sunday and Monday mornings at 06:30. The staff is friendly, the range is nice, with stacks of balls to hit. There is nothing wrong with the course. Being from the midwest, I like to play the desert courses that are target golf, more in the foothills. This is more resort golf, wide fairways, huge greens. I played with one ball for 36 holes. The rate was fair and the pace of play was great! i was paired up with very nice people both days so I had an enjoyable time playing at Talking Stick. The only challenge was the greens have their summer grass so the hold the ball perfectly and are about a 1.5 on the stent meter. We pretty much just smashed the putts, scraped the second one and moved on. I'm sure the greens will be perfect when the weather cools.

Nice place, treated well, just not overly challenging.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 43
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

North

A great layout and excellent conditioning. Greens a little slow, but is summer.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Play this course

Beautiful setting, beautiful course, great value summer rates. Will play again

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 47
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Too bad I can only afford to play this course in the hot Arizona summer

Beautiful course in great condition. Usually at this time of the year all of the grass at most courses is yellow and thin with lots of bare spots but this course was 100% Lush grass everywhere while you were on the course. Unfortunately as soon as you get off the course you are in the desert and I spent way too much time out there than on The Fairway. Other than that great day of golfing

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 10
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Talking stick (the north course)

I had recently played the south course and wanted to play the north to complete the experience (they have been re named). This is a resort course and plays as such,there are no real surprises or challenges and the fairways are wide enough to land a 737 in. The only challenge is the length and as long as you can hit a driver relatively straight this won't be a problem. That being said the par 3's are also ridiculously long (from the blacks) so maybe this is the entire theme. The staff is friendly and the course well maintained and you can get it for a great value in the summer so I wouldn't say to not play it just don't expect much from it.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Not a Resort Course-Sorry

Rough conditions, no sand in bunkers.

Grass rough. hit out of fairway, cant find it or cart stops working.

May never play again.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

OK course for the price

Based on the price and the reviews I read prior to my round I felt the golf course matched my expectations going in. The course was in decent shape and the layout at times somewhat challenging. I think the greens were recently sanded but the speeds were acceptable. They were very hard and it was difficult

to stop a ball. I played TPC Scottsdale the following day and there was slightly more bite to the greens there so I guess you generally have to contend with hard greens when you play in Arizona.Overall Talking Stick offers a fair bang for your buck but I wouldn't rush back to play it again.

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Staff. Very slow greens

Have played Talking Stick since it opened. As usual, all staff members were courteous and helpful. Played North Course. Greens were exceptionally slow. Fairways appear to be still in transition. Pace of play good -- 18 holes in 3:30.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 35
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

O'Odham Course gives you maximum roll

I'm not sure how they did this when they built the course, but I've never played anywhere that the ball rolls out like it does here, fairways & greens, and it's fairly level. Wide landing areas off the tee. There are plenty of bunkers, but most are easily avoided. My only objection was the music/noise/whatever that came pounding through the air from the swimming pool area at the hotel / casino. Way too loud & so I would tell you never to play there on a Saturday.Other than that I would certainly play this again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Not up to the other courses around.

I'm glad we got this on a hot deal because the other courses we played during our trip were so much better in maintenance and layout. We were disappointed on the first hole. The greens have sparse grass and don't get better until the last few holes. The last holes of the North course are actually very good.

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Greens were terrible

It is unfair to not notify golfers when the greens are sanded. Too me, it is not worth it even if it was free.

Conditions Fair
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Great value in Scottsdale

First time playing in Arizona, but avid golfer otherwise. This course was very easy and wide, yet a good design. In great condition on Tees, fairways, greens, clubhouse, etc. Best rolling greens that I've played on in years(especially for afternoon/twilight golf). Pretty mountains in the background. Highly recommend!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap Don't know
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
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