Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Course was cool till thugs made it hot!
All was going along fine until late in the round when the beers got working on all the groups around us and the noise level got unbearable. The tees and greens are close together on this course so you need to count on courtesy of others. Unfortunately this was the case. After complaining to the group behind us they took umbrage with our request and harassed us the rest of the round. The course was good greens fast and I played well. Just didn't like the carneval atmosphere.
Great Day on the course
From pulling up to the drop off and leaving the pick up area everything in between was spot on.
Fairways on the North course are some of the
widest and most forgiving I have ever played.
Greens were some of the fastest I have ever experienced, just kept on rollin. Everyone that we came in contact with (employees) were so nice, polite
and helpful. Made our day a special one. Will definitely come here next chance we are in town.
My wife and I thank you!
So happy that you and your wife had such a great experience at our course! We really do have such a great staff! We look forward to seeing the both of you again soon!
Super Slow
Met staff on 5 hole said play was slow and he said I will send ranger out right away. Never seen any one almost 5 hour round.
Great day of golf
The course is in great shape. The ball sits up nice and fairways are wide. The greens rolled true. It is a great resort course with wide fairways for players who want to hit driver a lot without too much risk. The only downside is that the back nine features 7 par 4s that seemed to have hazards at the same distances. It is a feel good course with plenty of opportunity to score
Thank you for coming out and playing at Talking Stick! We are glad you enjoyed your round and we than you for the 4 Stars!
Pace of play talking stick
Pace of play was brutal over five hours to complete round waiting every shot. Course MARSHALL came around we talked with him about pace of play he stated would check it out . Two groups ahead of us had a five some he stated they were doing an on course instruction. Should not be scheduled mid-day Saturday . They held up all the groups behind them.if this
Was going to happen maybe we should have played at a reduced rate not full price
We apologize for the slow pace of play and for your overall experience at Talking Stick. Please let us know if there is anything we can do to make it up to you.
Golf trip 2016 AZ
Nice course flags can be seen from most tee boxes very windy when we played. every one quite nice those of you expecting to see a prestine vegas type course its not but it is good enjoyed my round would play again
We are glad that you enjoyed your round at Talking Stick. We hope to have you back the next time you are in the area!
Talking Stick North
Course just reopened so fairways long and greens slow. Pace of play was quick because of this. Lacked a bit of character compared to others in the area.
Thank you for coming out and playing with us and for taking the time to leave feedback on the course.
Wide open course!
We played with a couple of teaching pros who were practicing for a tournament scheduled to begin the next day. Very friendly pairing! The staff we encountered were also extremely helpful. Definitely had fun and looking forward to playing here again. Only complaint was that it was HOT and there wasn't much shade/water on the course. Be sure to load up the cooler with water before heading out!
Glad to hear that you had fun out on the course and enjoyed your pairing! We look forward to having you back out on the course in the future!
Quick greens
Bring your putting game!!
Thank you for coming out and playing and for the 5 Stars!
Great experience
great value for this time of year, staff very friendly, driving range was in great shape, putting green was closed due to reseed. North course was in great shape. Fairways plush, greens held the ball well and putted fast and true. Pace was incredibly fast as for a dessert course it was very forgiving to us east coast boys.
Thank you for coming out and playing. We are glad to see that you had a good time out on the course. We hope you will come out and see us soon!
Bug Spray!
The course was in good shape and enjoyed the round. Almost got a lifetime of mosquito bites on the back nine. Brig some spray as the cart girl doesn't sell any. LOL.....
We are happy to hear that you enjoyed your round. Hope the mosquitos did not ruin your time out on the course! Hope to have you back soon!
Great design for featureless desert
In town for business Hooked up with two locals and enjoyed the course and company
For a flat piece of desert the architecture is well done nice Bail out areas along side of most of the greens
Harold in the pro shop is great!
Thank you for coming out and playing with us during your trip. Glad you were able to be paired with a good group. We hope the next time you are in town you will come back to see us!
Desert golf at its best
Well manicured course with some tricky holes but for the most part it plays very fair. Pure desert golf so fairways are wide and errant shots are penal.
Thank you for coming out and playing with us, and thank you for the 5 Stars. Happy to hear that you enjoyed your round, and hope you will come back to see us soon!
great value
I have played Talking Stick North and South courses in the past and I have not had a bad condition round and the other day was no exception. Greens, fairways, tee boxes were all in great shape. I will be joining the Talking Stick Golf Club in October.
Hi Brandi,
Thank you for coming out and playing with us so many times. We are excited to have you join next month. See you at the course soon!
Talking stick
Long course only 2 par fives and a 260 yard par 3 7100 yards - greens in bad condition - typical desert course - if they would thin out the desert areas to make them more playable and at the minimum make their greens playable in the summer
Thank you for taking time to leave a review and for the feedback regarding the course. We are always looking for ways to improve!
North Course tough greens
The fairways are generous and the teens are huge. The difficulty increases when you have to read the undulating greens.
Talking Stick
I played Saturday, June 25th around 1030. Even with the heat the course was a busy place and pace of play was not smooth. They were letting twosomes go out and not pairing up groups and caused pace of play to be slower than it should have been.
Customer service was good throughout the day. Clubhouse and starter were both friendly and we saw the beverage cart numerous times throughout the round.
The driving range was chewed up and it was hard to find decent grass to hit on. The range is gigantic and it was disappointing to see this condition especially on a busy weekend.
The course was in good shape for late June in Arizona. Conditions throughout the round were consistent. Tee boxes were all level. The fairways were a little on the dry side but playable. The greens were in good shape and putted fast. Sand traps were a bit inconsistent. Some were nice and fluffy with plenty of sand while others were like playing out of the desert.
The North course is wide open and fairly playable. Some well struck shots are unlucky enough to find the desert with little to no chance of hitting out. Many desert areas are OB. My partner had a well struck drive roll three yards off the grass and under a dead mesquite tree.
I haven't played here in a couple of years and it was nice to play this course again. I'm not sure I could play this course regularly but right now the conditions are good to get a round of summer golf in at a place most people can't afford in the winter/spring month.
Enjoy the hot
Extremely hot day to play but with excellent results. The course was fun, wide open, and challenging yet never doubted as the course conditions remained up to par. Enjoy the warm breeze...
Low cost but average course
Definitely one of the poorer courses in this region. Price is low so should not expect much. Pace of play was poor.
Good value
Played the North on a Tuesday. Rate was good. Liked the staff. Course was in great shape and played really fast. Not the most scenic in the valley but a good test
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Thank you so much for the feedback and we apoligize for the unpleasant experience. We will look into it.