Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
779 Reviews (779)
5 Stars
327
4 Stars
284
3 Stars
107
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
86.3%
Recommend this course
648 out of 779 reviews
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4.4
52 Reviews (52)
5 Stars
35
4 Stars
10
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.2
Layout
4.4
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.8
84.6%
Recommend this course
44 out of 52 reviews
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4.3
98 Reviews (98)
5 Stars
59
4 Stars
23
3 Stars
7
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.6
84.7%
Recommend this course
83 out of 98 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
779 Reviews (779)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Reviews 324
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Texas Advisor
Top 10 Contributor
Previously Played

Subtle and fun Talking Stick North

Of the three courses I played on my most recent trip to Scottsdale (including We-Ko-Pa Saguaro & TPC Scottsdale Stadium), Talking Stick North is certainly the most understated, particularly considering how flashy the hotel is, with its nightly light show and clubs and bars inside.

But fans of minimalist Coore Crenshaw will still find a lot of beauty here despite a flat, mostly featureless piece of property. We often praise architects for their work on spectacular terrain. But Coore-Crenshaw deserve a lot of credit for the subtleties they've delivered in a fun routing at Talking Stick, just east of the 101 freeway and very accessible from Old Town and Sky Harbor Airport.

The routing has big fairways, some neat hole designs and a whole lot of solitude. Native American courses have the benefit of not needing any adjoining residential development, and Talking Stick, while about as flat as it gets, is still a really enjoyable loop. I favor the North, a more wide open links-inspired course, over the more traditional South, which has more trees and water.

There are a few operational shortcomings here: there was no ranger on the course, and a fivesome held us up pretty good. Also, the driving range closing at 2 pm (only on Thursdays) wasn't great, considering I showed up early for my tee time to hit balls, and there is no chipping/pitching green, which would have been a fine consolation.

But for stay-and-play convenience in Scottsdale, Talking Stick still has one of the best setups thanks to the price point of the stay-and-play package and uniqueness of the two layouts here compared to its nearest peers. I'll still not hesitate to go back.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

NORTH COURSE - 18 Holes

The excavated rough condition in the depressed area on the 12th hole of the North Course was unacceptable. Also, the music from the pool area of the Talking Sticks Hotel was too loud and could be heard on virtually every hole on the course.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

So Slow!

Course was in great shape, it was a perfect day for golf in the Desert. When we arrived staff were on edge, no carts were available until about 3 Min before out t-time. The course was way over booked, pace of play was an unmerciful 5.5 hours for 18 holes. It was apparent that course Rangers had any intent on enforcing pace of play expectations. In our opinion it ruined our experience, and we are not super fast players or low handicappers ourselves.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 23
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Poor Quality - Overpriced

Talking Stick is very run down. Almost $100 per person is definitely not worth it for this course. Plus the rangers quit early & we have a bunch of guys hitting into us on several holes even though they saw that we had to wait for the players in front of us. We will NEVER go back to this course again. Course is very flat & definitely not beautiful or interesting.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Poor
Friendliness Fair
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Enjoyable course

Had a great time playing this course. It is challenging, yet fair. I will definitely go back. Stopped to get a bite to eat when finished. Very disappointed wth the speed of service and the very short menu, though.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 27
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Average weather
Used cart

Wish it wasn't windy!

Course was in good shape, the greens were really hard, couldn't dent them let alone hold them. Many were so fast few in my group could keep a putt on the surface. Service staff was excellent. For the price I would expect gps.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Talkingstick golf

I found the course in very good shape, pace of play was good, price wasn't bad either.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 25
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Speedy round great course

Dropped off my clubs and everything went smoothly from then on. Checked in and was sent out to the driving range. Great way to warm up. To practice green.and off right on time. Played in 3 hours and 15 minutes. Greens were fast an smooth. Fairways were in good shape for the transition time of year. Would definitely recommend it.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Good location

Course is flat and wide ooen. Typical resort course but hoping for more than a back and forth layout with little differences in the holes. Price was steep as well for what you get. I will say food is excellent and the staff is great.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

GC Guy

North or South course.... either is awesome. Coore & Crenshaw design is superb!! I highly recommend this golf experience!

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Playing Talking Stick

The course did not have my name on the tee sheet. It was entered guest. A little disappointing.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Too pricey for the staff and carts

Not up to par with other high end courses in the valley staff was not happy to be there on Sunday.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

I'm from the midwest never saw so many prairie dogs!W

It was a wonderful course to play, and I would enjoy playing it again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

VERY POOR Greens

I had high expectations when we pulled in. The staff was friendly and processed our payments quickly. The driving range was fine and we even teeded off a few minutes early.

The problem started when we reached the first green. It was not ONLY slow it was very bumpy. I found this same proble to be true on ALL 18 greens. This made it very difficult to enjoy the round because each hole ended with a slow/bumpy putting surface.

The head greens keeper need to talk to his counterparts at other courses like Whisper rock to see what can be done to rescue this course.

Talking Stick in NOT a cheap course and the amount paid was not reflected in the quantity of the greens. I will not return and advise other golfers to spend their hard earned money at one of the many other courses in the area.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

very nice deser course--good value

nice course--good layout

not on the same level as the top end courses but definitly worth the $

we will definitly play it again

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 44
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Good Course

I played the South Course, which was in good shape and fairly easy. Nice wide fairways, roughs with grass!, and lovely view areas. Staff were super friendly and helpful. Course is good for a range of players -- I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great place to play

The staff,the course, the whole day was great, it wasn't over booked the pace was awesome we were done 18 holes in under 4 hours.The only down side of the course is that there is no GPS in the carts.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Casino golf

Our wives hung out at the casino while we played golf on a beautiful golf course. Win, win! Pun intended. Nice facility. Had a great time!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 17
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

A good test and

Overall, it was a fun course to play. Tee shots are fairly wide with the challenge being the approaches. Course in good condition

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 15
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Perfect for medium to high handicap

We were a twosome paired with a couple of other snowbirds and really enjoyed our round. Fairways were perfect. Range was great w/ all the balls you wanted to hit included. Huge putting area but a let down that there was no place to chip. Greens were just a bit slow and too firm for my liking. Overall would look forward to playing this course again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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