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Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
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The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Talking Stick is Recommended
The Talking Stick Courses are fabulous. I highly recommend them both. I typically play over 150 rounds a year, so I obviously play a lot of courses.
The course is challenging with some extra room in the fairways and tough undulating greens. The course layout can be reasonably be seen and understood before your shot rather than afterward. I hate ah ha moments after the shot and driving up to my ball to see hidden features that I wish I knew about before my shot.
Wide open fairway and peaceful course
I was enjoyed very much.
Golf course is well maintained and so beautiful place to play golf. Staffs are very friendly too.
Nice course with poor customer service
The starter was not helpful at all. No instruction what so ever on pin placement or facilities. We called into the clubhouse during our round and were told there were no restrooms on the course. Course was lovely but would not play again due to customer service.
Lower rating on off course amenities due to construction and improvements but should be great when completed.
Quick round
Started on back nine because a tournament was finishing. All in all an enjoyable round although the club house was unavailable as it’s being renovated
Nice course
Overall course in good shape. Bunkers could use some work. Club house getting renovated so amenities not really available. Would recommend and will go back again
Don't pay retail
Had a great day, loved the course and will definitely be going back. Booking through Golf Now was a mistake, paid $262 and found out after the fact that there are special deals if you do some research and call the pro shop. I'm sure that many courses in the Scottsdale area and other areas as well provide deals if you ask. Small additional detail, clubhouse is under renovation, was not a big deal unless you are looking to eat and spend time before or after golf.
Fun/hard course views are lacking
It's a fun course if you hit the ball straight. Not strait you are in the unplayable desert. Nice conditions and greens.
Great course
Course was in great shape.
Wide fairways, greens in good shape & rolled true.
Pace of play was good.
At $70 this is an ok course
1st time here. Golf carts are nice. Most tee boxes are nice. Most fairways are nice. Greens are firm - expected given the desert. Would only play here again if the price is right - $100 US is maximum price - not worth anything more. It is peaceful also - cannot hear any freeway noise. Easy to get to.
Best fairways I have played in reasonable cost course
If you get the hot deal this is a can’t miss round! The fairways are incredible shape and lots of width for the errant shot that can come out. Greens are tough to hold but in great shape and bunkers are sweet. Pace of play was good done in 4:05.
Just Amazing
I think this is one of the Gem courses in the valley. It has big fairways, greens are always in great shape. This course always is a pleasure to play, particularly when you can find a deal under $70
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