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Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
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The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Talking Stick North
Have been coming to the valley since the late 80’s and knowing when Talking Stick opened up in the late 90’s I’m surprised that this was my first play here.
Played the North Course. Very enjoyable, great shape and speed of play was excellent. My pet peeve is slow play so I welcome rounds like this.
I’ll be back!
Thanks,
Bob K
Alberta Canada
Golf with my sons
Greens and fairways were in excellent condition. Enjoyed the scenery and wildlife during the round.
Marshalls have bad attittudes.
Our cart died 100 yards after teeing off on first hole. So, by the time they got a new cart out to us we were 35 minutes behind on time. After getting new cart, 3 different Marshalls came up to us to tell us we were behind on time as we tried to catch back up. All 3 had very bad attitudes and didn't want to hear the reason why we were behind.
The first time someone in our group hit a ball into the so called rough (nothing but gravel and weeds) a Marshall came up telling us to just throw down a ball because we were holding up play and made a sarcastic statement that if he we didn't have balls, he could get us some. This pretty much ruined our day of getting out to play golf.
Also, want to state that we paid $200+ each to play a course that if the ball went off of the fairway 2ft it was in unmanaged weeds, or the ground was rutted out from water so bad that you couldn't play from where the ball laid.
Overall: horrible treatment of guest and course management. I will not play or recommend this course to anyone.
Overall good conditions. Couple of greens with a lot of hallmarks not repaired. Slower pace of play at 4:35 hrs.
Beautiful course
Beautiful course
No indoor washrooms and restaurant open yet due to renovations. Hopefully next time
A good time had, however...
The staff was friendly and the course conditions were very good. However, I am disappointed that I had to pay a considerable amount of money for my son and me in advance, only to find out during the check-in process that there was construction going on at the clubhouse and bathrooms. If I had known this beforehand, I would not have booked at this time.
Well managed and great condition
Club house going through extensive remodeling but course in great shape. I know pace a play hard to predict, but p,aged in a little over 4 hours.
Underwhelmed!!
Not impressed with the course friendliness. Fairways and greens great condition but wouldn’t play again due to staff rudeness. Starter not helpful at all. No idea of flag position. Underwhelmed!!
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