Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
780 Reviews (780)
5 Stars
328
4 Stars
284
3 Stars
107
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
86.4%
Recommend this course
649 out of 780 reviews
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4.5
53 Reviews (53)
5 Stars
36
4 Stars
10
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.2
Layout
4.4
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.8
84.9%
Recommend this course
45 out of 53 reviews
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4.3
98 Reviews (98)
5 Stars
59
4 Stars
23
3 Stars
7
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.6
84.7%
Recommend this course
83 out of 98 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
780 Reviews (780)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Like it so much the first time we played it again the next day, considering how many courses we have to choose from I would say that's a huge positive

Would very much like to have played the south course but that was undergoing maintainance and not available. Would play that next visit if its open.
My husband loved the course nice and open and very well maintained.
Lack of a Marshall on Tuesday to keep the game flowing waited around a bit longer than we would have liked,but overall not a bad pace.
Better pace on Wednesday and the Marshall jay was very nice.
All staff are an asset to this course thank you

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Okay

Course was in good shape for summer...I don't think I'd have any interest in playing it again. Perhaps is was the disinterested attitude of the staff...Really didn't feel welcome.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Poor
Pace Fair
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Tons of fun!

We played the south course at Talking Stick last summer and were very impressed. This time we chose the north course with a little apprehension. Boy, were we wrong. Talking Stick North turned out to be just as exciting, just as much fun, and in great condition! Afternoon play was inexpensive and fast. Fees included unlimited range balls. Friendly staff and relaxing bar made our experience even better. I would recommend either course to any golfer, of any level, looking for a fun, affordable, challenging round of golf. Kudos to Talking Stick!

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Don't golf here on father's day

I did not complete my round. After a little over 1.5 hours to do the first 4 holes, and finding myself in a group that was the third group to tee off on the 5th hole, I asked for a rain check. They agreed to the rain check, but it was not a nice experience.

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great value on the reservation

There is not signage from the 101 and Indian Bend, so head for the Casino but pass it and continue on to the dead end, turn left, take this to the club drop-off and parking lot. A driving range on site. The north course is wide, long and mostly flat, but the sand traps are challenging. Lots of green with the only brown being the desert. The fast greens are difficult to gauge. Take extra balls. A quick pace (without waiting), which was appreciated in the desert heat. A welcome beverage/food cart stopped by several times. No misters or GPS on the carts, although a cooler with ice is provided. The pro shop has tempting, current golf gear. Staff was amenable and pleasant. We opted for lunch at the course restaurant. Wonderful service, ample portions, delish food and refreshing ice tea.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 19
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

An outstanding track, but a little pricey.

The course is absolutely beautiful in perfect shape. The greens were fast but rolled true. I only saw 2 other foursomes during the entire round; it was like you owned the golf course. Having said that, the price was a little high ($89.00).

Conditions Excellent
Value Poor
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser

Nice course, not sure that it is worth the $; no beverage cart visit

It started out very windy, but after wind died down, we enjoyed the course much more. I was extremely disappointed that throughout the entire 18 holes, we did not get a visit from the beverage cart. Was pretty hot, too. I was excited to say, though, that I got a hole in one on the 11th, much to my husband's surprise. They gave me a flag but did not have the option of buying a plaque so i could put it right by my husband's plaque at home. All in all, it was a fun day, even though the only refreshment we got was the water on the course that was lukewarm at best.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Difficulty Extremely Easy
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser

Interesting features unique tract with well thought out design.

This is a well cared for golf course with greens at a Stemp of 10-11. Design is unique and I was surprised to find it is not by a renown architect. However, it plays like it was designed by Devlin/Von Hagge. Loved the par threes. Fair golf course not a lot of mystery as to where you need to hit the ball. Beautiful with fast pace of play we finished in 3 hours and 20 minutes. Thoroughly enjoyed my experience. A Phoenix must play course!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser

Great course but the new greens are a challenge

The staff in the course are excellent as always. The new greens on the North course were hard and fast And not very receptive to an approach shot. I'm sure they'll soften up with time.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser

Fair course

Average resort course. The $175 posted price highly inflated.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser

Too expensive. Course in v good condition. Greens great.

Too expensive.
Course in v good condition.
Fairways perfect.
Greens slick and frim, fun and challenging.

Conditions Excellent
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser

Staff friendly, course playable with wide fairways

Intersting course, Greens and sand traps tough, fairways very wide. Stark scrub land juxtaposed on green golf course very lovely. Woman friendly. Good pro shop

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 20-24
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Course

Most other courses in the area tend to slack on the maintenance in the summertime, but Talking Stick North was in great condition given that it was summertime.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser

Boring course

The course was very boring with no stand out holes and kind of a boring layout and is way over priced for the course

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser

Good Warm-up Track

Course is fairly wide open. No water on the North Course. Greens were slick and pins were placed in very tricky spots. Went off as a two ball (first off) - played in just about 3 hours. We paid a discounted rate which made it well worth the money esp. that time of year.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 0-4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser

Nice Course but wouldn't rush back to play

Played the North Course yesterday and other than the over seeding still visible, the course was in nice shape. The course isn't overly difficult with generous fairways and large greens. My buddy and I have played many different courses and felt for $80 it was ok and we wouldn't be interested at regular price.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser

Wide fairways, good pace of play, and very good condition.

Enjoyed this course, and look forward to playing the companion South course. 'Cartpath only', due to overseeding, meant many long walks across the fairways, but the excellent condition of the fairways was a big plus. Greens were slowish, and there was plenty of sand in the bunkers.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser

Overpriced

Flat, boring course, with fairways so wide you didn't have to think on tee shots. Not one hole was memorable.

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 81
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 500 Contributor

dog track

Played the north course for the first time and will not play it again. What a waste of space . Can you make a flatter course that all the holes look and play identical ? I hear the south course has a better layout but im.not going back to see if thats true,way to many course around the valley with the same cost.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Poor
Pace Fair
Difficulty Extremely Easy
Played On
Reviews 20
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser

disapointing

I was extreamly disapointed with talking stick north course. after being closed all summer to re-do their greens I found them to be in an unnacceptable condition. Half the flag sticks could not be stood upright, and all the greens were covered with worm tailings.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
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