Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipaash Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club, designed by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, offers two uniquely different courses that each offer many options according to your playing skill. The Piipaash course (previously known as South at Talking Stick Golf Club), with its tree-lined fairways and raised greens defended at the sides offers a more straightforward style of play than the O'odham Course (formerly known as North at Talking Stick Golf Club).
A round of golf on the Piipaash Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club kicks off on a par-4 hole that measures 405 yards from the Black tees. Three long par-5 holes ensures that power golfers will get their kicks, with the fifth hole coming in at 516 yards, the 1fourth measuring 541 and the 16th playing to 548. The round of golf concludes on a relatively shorter par 4 that measures 323 yards.
After a round of golf on the North Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club, head back to the Wildhorse Grille for drinks and a bite to eat.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 71 | 6833 yards | 72.0 | 126 |
| Gold | 71 | 6430 yards | 69.7 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 71 | 6430 yards | 75.2 | 130 |
| Gold/Jade | 71 | 6040 yards | 67.4 | 117 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 71 | 6040 yards | 72.0 | 123 |
| Jade | 71 | 5331 yards | 64.9 | 108 |
| Jade (W) | 71 | 5331 yards | 69.1 | 117 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.0/126 | 405 | 419 | 228 | 327 | 471 | 386 | 516 | 476 | 177 | 3405 | 404 | 392 | 441 | 152 | 541 | 443 | 548 | 184 | 323 | 3428 | 6833 |
| Gold M: 69.7/120 W: 75.7/129 | 391 | 397 | 195 | 309 | 447 | 363 | 496 | 455 | 155 | 3208 | 384 | 358 | 417 | 136 | 521 | 417 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3222 | 6430 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.4/117 W: 73.8/125 | 391 | 351 | 125 | 309 | 402 | 363 | 496 | 388 | 155 | 2980 | 384 | 358 | 343 | 136 | 489 | 361 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3060 | 6040 |
| Jade M: 64.9/108 W: 69.6/118 | 332 | 351 | 125 | 288 | 402 | 278 | 411 | 388 | 106 | 2681 | 273 | 276 | 343 | 102 | 489 | 361 | 400 | 118 | 288 | 2650 | 5331 |
| Handicap | 13 | 3 | 7 | 17 | 1 | 15 | 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 6 | 4 | 14 | 18 | 12 | |||
| Par | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 35 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 71 |
| Handicap (W) | 7 | 9 | 17 | 13 | 3 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 15 | 14 | 6 | 10 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 12 |
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Photo submitted by patd0329 on 04/01/2026
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Photo submitted by mikie253 on 01/31/2026
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 5 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 12 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Photo submitted by tOOtgOZhQKpnYOVkj2OT on 11/17/2025
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Photo submitted by u00000472983 on 07/10/2025
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Photo submitted by ranretired on 03/28/2023
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Photo submitted by ranretired on 03/28/2023
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Photo submitted by TonyFagan58 on 03/09/2023
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Photo submitted by TonyFagan58 on 03/09/2023
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Photo submitted by mason2289 on 01/07/2023
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Photo submitted by u040961220 on 10/07/2022
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Photo submitted by u040961220 on 10/07/2022
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Photo submitted by u106838086 on 03/04/2022
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Photo submitted by Bigjamaican on 12/13/2021
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Photo submitted by peachbug on 12/07/2021
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Photo submitted by u000005667764 on 07/03/2021
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Photo submitted by uBYTE1254BY on 05/05/2021
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Photo submitted by u314161161496 on 01/23/2021
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Photo submitted by MStewartC2C on 01/02/2021
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Photo submitted by u454189909 on 08/23/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by garthstewart on 05/03/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/28/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/28/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/15/2020
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Photo submitted by cbatman on 01/25/2020
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by u314159545107 on 08/22/2019
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Eighteen green Photo submitted by Rosey461 on 06/16/2014
Terrible course setup and course attendant’s interaction
Overall a nice course and bar / restaurant staff were great.
Sadly really really poor experience with on course attendant. Pave of play is important, but being told to hurry up in a sub 4 hour round, cart path only, and senior tees often nearing 400 yards was sadly disappointing. If you are cart path only and have seniors you cannot expect them to play 3 hour rounds of golf with cart path -
Seriously poor course setup and attitude. We played ready golf but were chastised - don’t play here if it’s cart path - you get ZERO sympathy and total lack of golf knowledge from course Marshall.
Piipash
O’odham is definitely a less challenging and more fun course to play in my opinion. Piipash is a bit more compact, holes are more difficult in regard to size of area for ball to land in play.
It’s a beautiful course and a beautiful experience. Very fun. Leave plenty of time for a full 4 person group to finish 18 holes.
Very Nice
Great staff and amenities. Course played well and was in very good shape. Driving range closed for seasonal overseed, it’s my personal curse that all first time visits have closed ranges.
Fantastic course
Championship course, great views, friendly staff. Must play when in The Valley.
Customer service...Pairing golfers up
I know after Covid each golfer had their own cart. Not sure when Talking Stick changed but I believe you need to be respectful that if someone wants their own cart you should allow them to have one just like you have in the past. You've had enough carts in the past. I'm sure I'm not alone but I do not appreciate golfing with someone I don't know drinking a lot and vaping next to me while we I'm in the cart.
Great option in Scottsdale
Course is in great shape and brand new clubhouse. Friendly staff and beer cart person.
Will definitely play here again.
Pretty good course
Overall, the course was well maintained and easy to access. The tee boxes and fairways were well watered and green. The greens were drier and the dirt harder than the rest of the course. The ball would frequently roll off the back of the green instead of biting. We had to aim for the ball to land prior to the green then hope it would hold on the greens. Pace of play was ok, but could have been better. The marshal should have sped up the group ahead, but just drove past them each time. The layout is flat and honestly, a bit boring. Felt like a well watered muni course.
Of all the courses we played in this area, I wouldn’t pick this one to play again.
Nice Course & Long
First time here. Course plays long, greens were very firm and wouldn’t really hold a shot. But greens rolled nicely. Course was nicely cut and green considering it’s summer. Was a real hot day with a lot of players. Kudos to Scott for bringing water around a couple of times. Very nice cart lady too. Had a great talk with Harold & Rich in the Pro Shop, and Jim the starter got us out a little early. The grille afterward was excellent, especially the salmon glazed salad. Would play and eat here again. Thank you!
Good per usual
Talking stick is always a good summer course. Not many courses will be in better condition this time of year.
Great Marshall
Great Marshall. A monsoon was brewing and the Marshall did a great job of letting us know what was ahead for us in terms of the storm. Very friendly staff from the club house to the cart barn to the bartender.
Didn’t even get to play
We were late 5 mins and were told we couldn’t play. Then, we were also told we don’t qualify for the tribal discount because we booked through a different party and had to submit it 3 days in advance. So don’t recommend this place, very poor customer service.
The Stick
Great course! The pace of play was excellent. Love the open fairways.
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