Piipaash at Talking Stick GC - #12
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4.2
1864 Reviews (1864)
5 Stars
726
4 Stars
693
3 Stars
282
2 Stars
105
1 Stars
58
Conditions
4.3
Value
4.0
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.3
84.3%
Recommend this course
1496 out of 1864 reviews
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4.2
57 Reviews (57)
5 Stars
33
4 Stars
12
3 Stars
7
2 Stars
2
1 Stars
3
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.0
Layout
4.2
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.5
82.5%
Recommend this course
47 out of 57 reviews
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4.3
99 Reviews (99)
5 Stars
56
4 Stars
25
3 Stars
11
2 Stars
3
1 Stars
4
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.0
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.5
84.8%
Recommend this course
84 out of 99 reviews
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Course Highlights
The Piipaash course consistently impresses with fast greens, manicured fairways, and well-kept bunkers that reward focused play. Exceptionally friendly staff, a well-stocked driving range, and strong overall value make this a compelling booking.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Traditional
Par 71
Length 6833 yards
Slope 126
Rating 72.0

The Talking Stick Golf Club, designed by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, offers two uniquely different courses that each offer many options according to your playing skill. The Piipaash course (previously known as South at Talking Stick Golf Club), with its tree-lined fairways and raised greens defended at the sides offers a more straightforward style of play than the O'odham Course (formerly known as North at Talking Stick Golf Club).

A round of golf on the Piipaash Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club kicks off on a par-4 hole that measures 405 yards from the Black tees. Three long par-5 holes ensures that power golfers will get their kicks, with the fifth hole coming in at 516 yards, the 1fourth measuring 541 and the 16th playing to 548. The round of golf concludes on a relatively shorter par 4 that measures 323 yards.

After a round of golf on the North Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club, head back to the Wildhorse Grille for drinks and a bite to eat.

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Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipaash (South)
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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms
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Reviews

4.2
1864 Reviews (1864)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 41
Patio Dining 23
Brunch 18
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 97
Undulating Greens 52
Plays Long 35
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 55
A Weekend Splurge 51
Locals 50
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 87
Convenient to the City 79
Near Local Attractions 42

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Played On
Reviews 163
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Top 100 Contributor
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Overpriced

This is a fine, average course. Conditionss were good, but there is nothing special. Even in the Phoenix winter market, I don’t think it’s worth $200.

The greens are interesting, with any long putt likely to break more than 1 direction. A few holes have hidden hazards, so pay attention to the GPS.

Starter was friendly, and kept things on time. We finished in 4 hrs and 15 minutes, which is their suggested pace. I thought that was much too long, as we waited on nearly every shot.

Overall, like I said a fine average course. I would go back for $100 (in the winter) but not for $200.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 60
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Very disappointed in staff policy about being a single and riding in a cart alone, after paying $180 plus club rental $80 being told have to pair with another player or pay 25-30 cart fee is ludicrous, rates in AZ and Vegas are crazy, at least be more accommodating some what.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 22
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 16
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

Great overall experience

My brother and law and I had an amazing time playing our first round of desert golf. Course was in awesome shape given December. Location close to the casino made for a great day.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Used cart

bait and switch raincheck offer

My wife and I booked this course on golf now while staying at the resort. I booked it well in advance and had a 1 pm start time. We got set up and proceeded to 1st hole. Bob the ranger was very helpful in explaining the course rule and giving a few tips regarding the course. He was very friendly. We went off as a threesome, but quickly became bogged down between holes. after almost two hours and only making it through 5 holes, Bob came by an offered us a full raincheck for the round due to the fact that an 80 person outing had gone out immediately before us. We accepted as we figured the raincheck could pay for our round we had scheduled for two days later on the other course. We left the course and I proceeded to speak to the assistant manager(Pete I believe). He informed me that rain-checks are the responsibility of Golf Now and he couldn't or wouldn't do anything to help me come to a resolution. HE seemed very smug and not at all interested in helping. His suggestion to go out and finish round was a joke. Bob the ranger was very apologetic and asked if I would like to play with him early in the morning the next day( unfortunately we had plans already). I proceeded to cancel my Thursday tee time. I was not about to give this course more money after being treated so poorly. I believe Golf Now was going to at least refund the 2nd tee time. The bag guys and other staff seemed very attentive and friendly. My wife and I were very excited to stay and play at Talking stick, but the golf experience was very negative.

Conditions Good
Value Poor
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Poor
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 10
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Busy Day

The course was in great shape. Very busy and the round was very slow. Didn’t finish last two holes.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Poor Communication

Wouldn’t have expected a premium facility to not communicate it was a transition mess. Poor experience for Holiday Tradition because of no communication..

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 125
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Wide fairways and rough everywhere

You're always hitting from grass here which is great after playing a dozen courses in the valley with tight fairways and desert runoffs. There's rough everywhere in case you miss the wide fairways.

This was my preferred side of the 2 tracks since there's doglegs and water comes into play on a few holes. If you enjoy hitting driver off the tee and don't have the best control with the driver, play here. 11 was a fun hole - it's a dogleg left with water running along the entire left side. 18 was a fun approach to a tight green with bunkers on the left and water on the right. There are deep bunkers on the sides of the greens of a few par 3's.

Sandwich house at the turn was great, really diverse menu instead of just hot dogs, but I didn't see any signs up on hole 8 or 9 to call in orders, might have been more of an after-round thing. The range before the round was grass not turf.

Staff everywhere was friendly and helpful. My group had slow golfers and we wound up 2 holes behind the group ahead of us at the turn, I informed the ranger of the situation at the turn and asked if we could split off into a twosome which he allowed. We were able to complete the back 9 in under 90 minutes as a result. Thank you.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Slowest play due to an outing - they said we could get our money back but had to contact GolfNow to do that.

Golf course would have given us our money back but said we had to go through GolfNow . I attempted to call GolfNow and was on hold for 1 hour and 25 minutes with no answer at all.

Not happy about this customer service.

Conditions Good
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Friendly layout in great shape

First time playing at Talking Stick. Nice course in great shape with consistent greens.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 1
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Fair

Construction on site so no clubhouse. No GPS on carts which at this price point is ridiculous. Course was in excellent condition as was pace of play.

Conditions Excellent
Value Poor
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Golf Packages

Talking Stick Stay & Play Package

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PHOENIX/SCOTTSDALE | Enjoy lodging accommodations at Talking Stick Resort, Hampton Inn & Suites Scottsdale at Talking Stick, or Staybridge Suites Scottsdale - Talking Stick and golf at Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipash & O'odham courses.

Arizona Golf Grind Package

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PHOENIX/SCOTTSDALE | Enjoy lodging accommodations at the Courtyard by Marriott Scottsdale Old Town and golf at the Phoenician Golf Club, Longbow Golf Club, Papago Golf Club, and Eagle Mountain Golf Club.
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PHOENIX/SCOTTSDALE | Enjoy lodging accommodations at the Courtyard by Marriott Scottsdale Old Town and golf at the Phoenician Golf Club, Longbow Golf Club, Papago Golf Club, and Eagle Mountain Golf Club.

The Phoenician Golf Around Package

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PHOENIX/SCOTTSDALE | Enjoy lodging accommodations at the Phoenician Resort and golf at The Phoenician Golf Club, Westin Kierland Golf Club & Papago Golf Course.
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