Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipaash Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club, designed by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, offers two uniquely different courses that each offer many options according to your playing skill. The Piipaash course (previously known as South at Talking Stick Golf Club), with its tree-lined fairways and raised greens defended at the sides offers a more straightforward style of play than the O'odham Course (formerly known as North at Talking Stick Golf Club).
A round of golf on the Piipaash Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club kicks off on a par-4 hole that measures 405 yards from the Black tees. Three long par-5 holes ensures that power golfers will get their kicks, with the fifth hole coming in at 516 yards, the 1fourth measuring 541 and the 16th playing to 548. The round of golf concludes on a relatively shorter par 4 that measures 323 yards.
After a round of golf on the North Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club, head back to the Wildhorse Grille for drinks and a bite to eat.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 71 | 6833 yards | 72.0 | 126 |
| Gold | 71 | 6430 yards | 69.7 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 71 | 6430 yards | 75.2 | 130 |
| Gold/Jade | 71 | 6040 yards | 67.4 | 117 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 71 | 6040 yards | 72.0 | 123 |
| Jade | 71 | 5331 yards | 64.9 | 108 |
| Jade (W) | 71 | 5331 yards | 69.1 | 117 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.0/126 | 405 | 419 | 228 | 327 | 471 | 386 | 516 | 476 | 177 | 3405 | 404 | 392 | 441 | 152 | 541 | 443 | 548 | 184 | 323 | 3428 | 6833 |
| Gold M: 69.7/120 W: 75.7/129 | 391 | 397 | 195 | 309 | 447 | 363 | 496 | 455 | 155 | 3208 | 384 | 358 | 417 | 136 | 521 | 417 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3222 | 6430 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.4/117 W: 73.8/125 | 391 | 351 | 125 | 309 | 402 | 363 | 496 | 388 | 155 | 2980 | 384 | 358 | 343 | 136 | 489 | 361 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3060 | 6040 |
| Jade M: 64.9/108 W: 69.6/118 | 332 | 351 | 125 | 288 | 402 | 278 | 411 | 388 | 106 | 2681 | 273 | 276 | 343 | 102 | 489 | 361 | 400 | 118 | 288 | 2650 | 5331 |
| Handicap | 13 | 3 | 7 | 17 | 1 | 15 | 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 6 | 4 | 14 | 18 | 12 | |||
| Par | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 35 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 71 |
| Handicap (W) | 7 | 9 | 17 | 13 | 3 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 15 | 14 | 6 | 10 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 12 |
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Reviewer Photos
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 5 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 12 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Photo submitted by tOOtgOZhQKpnYOVkj2OT on 11/17/2025
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Photo submitted by u00000472983 on 07/10/2025
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Photo submitted by ranretired on 03/28/2023
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Photo submitted by ranretired on 03/28/2023
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Photo submitted by TonyFagan58 on 03/09/2023
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Photo submitted by TonyFagan58 on 03/09/2023
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Photo submitted by mason2289 on 01/07/2023
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Photo submitted by u040961220 on 10/07/2022
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Photo submitted by u040961220 on 10/07/2022
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Photo submitted by u106838086 on 03/04/2022
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Photo submitted by Bigjamaican on 12/13/2021
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Photo submitted by peachbug on 12/07/2021
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Photo submitted by u000005667764 on 07/03/2021
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Photo submitted by uBYTE1254BY on 05/05/2021
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Photo submitted by u314161161496 on 01/23/2021
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Photo submitted by MStewartC2C on 01/02/2021
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Photo submitted by u454189909 on 08/23/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by garthstewart on 05/03/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/28/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/28/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/15/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/15/2020
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Photo submitted by cbatman on 01/25/2020
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by u314159545107 on 08/22/2019
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Eighteen green Photo submitted by Rosey461 on 06/16/2014
Overall very nice
We enjoyed it! The greens were a little hard and sandy but besides that no complaints. Would definitely play here again
Clubhouse Construction
We played the O’odham course. There is major construction on the clubhouse, check-in and bathrooms are trailers next to the parking lot. The major inconvenience is the first bathroom on the course is on the 12th hole.
The fairways were very lush, greens still recovering for aeration - a little slow and fuzzy. There is a big yardage gap for the forward tees. It would be nice to have a jade-rust combo.
Boring
So many of the holes played the same - distance, layout, hazards, etc. I can’t recall any hole that was memorable or unique because they were all so similar, with nothing special about any of them
Pace of play different on back
The front side went well, but the last 7 holes took forever. We were playing as a fivesome!
Great course
Course is in great condition and the clubhouse is under construction, so I am not penalizing on the rating as the temporary amenities accommodate. Staff is great.
Hot day
Though the putting green was under repairs, the driving range is ideal for shirt and long practice hits.
The course itself is perfect. No complaints and a must see for the abide golfer.
Had a blast
Great track for all levels of play. Could use fresh sand in the bunkers. Very nice scenic views and the staff were great. Cart returns do not share tips so have to tip the bag drop as well.
Out of Town
I came to town 3 days prior to a celebration I was attending. Playing golf for 2 of those days was my plan. Much to my surprise Talking Sticks (2.5 miles) was my closes option. It was a very good coincidence. I made arrangements to practice one day and play the next. I had a very good round.
I was greeted by an abundance of 4 legged prairie rodents throughout my play and even saw a coyote searching for prey. I Never felt threatened by either.
It all made for a good day for me in the desert 🏜.
My eye allergy flared from the windv conditions and sand .
Must know before you go
Great course and layout. Greens were bumpy and should be in better shape in a couple of weeks. The disappointing part was there was no practice putting green available or chipping area. I booked on line and there was no disclosure online or at check in. I felt sorry for the starter having to deal with that all morning. I'm sure the greens and practice area will be improved shortly. Before playing again I'll ask first.
Talking Stick
Played here a few years ago and really enjoyed the course. Today was just as good, nice fairways, great pace of play, solid greens.
Not good, especially for Scottsdale area
Course, especially greens, were in terrible condition. Being arated. Course was very flat but wet in many areas to the point it was very difficultnot to chunk your shot. I would not recommend this course, especially while they're under construction.
Not Good!!
Have played this course many times, besides the club house remodel, course is in terrible condition,. Greens haven’t recovered from punching and no sand in sand traps..save your money until they figure it out!!
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