PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
91.2%
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4.7
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4.8
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4.3
Layout
4.9
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4.1
Amenities
4.6
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4.9
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Course Highlights
This iconic stadium course delivers a bucket-list layout with stunning mountain views, challenging water hazards, and conditions that consistently impress recent golfers. Welcoming staff from bag drop to pro shop make every visitor feel genuinely excited to play.

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Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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Reviews

4.5
1196 Reviews (1196)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 42
Patio Dining 28
19th Hole Scenic Views 26
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 70
Water Hazards 67
Forced Carries 49
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 61
A Bucket list/Top 100 Pick 52
A Weekend Splurge 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 42
At a Resort 34
Convenient to the City 18

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Played On
Reviews 84
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 500 Contributor
British Columbia Advisor
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

MUST PLAY, Incredibly Challenging, Excellent Conditions!

IMO Pete Dye's Mona Lisa

Like being on a surreal golf course

Every look is stunning on the course and the surroundings.

takes confidence and composure to play this course

Does give advantage to shorter approach shots because every green is guarded by water, bunkers or rock formations so play the right tees (not a course to let testosterone get the best of you)

If you're not precise on distance I'd suggest add a club every approach shot With a couple exceptions long is the safer position and always play middle of the green

If you spray bring enough balls

Definitely Mid to Low Handicap golfers only

Facilities and the people are Top Notch

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 50
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Absolutely amazing

This has always been a Top-5 in the USA for me. Incredibly great and difficult course. Conditions were amazing. Greens were nearly perfect, which is amazing for September in the desert. Pro shops has amazing stuff in it. If I only had some extra money. :) Ernie’s grill and bar was excellent. A must-go golf location.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1000
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 1 Contributor
California Advisor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Stadium

Played the Blues (6739/73.1/140) twilight in slightly less than 3H. The weather was sunny, breezy and around 105.

Pete Dye design that features moguls and large bunkers galore that make for challenging sight lines. Many of the traps here the average golfer needs to steer clear of to avoid big numbers. Bad shots are really penalized here. Even relatively good shots barely offline can quickly result in a double or worse.

The Bermuda tees were lush and well maintained, only some par 3's needed divot attention.

The Bermuda fairways were lush with most divots already repaired.

The Bermuda rough was lush and still thick even though mowed down.

The plentiful sand traps were well maintained with good quality sand. One i was in was thin and could have used more sand. There are many large traps on this course, a few with 10' to 15' lips to play over. Avoiding the sand here is a higher priority than almost any other course I have played.

The Bermuda greens putted nice. Medium speed, smooth for Bermuda, consistent and firm.

The customer service was top notch. No drink cart twilight. Numerous water stations on the course. Good GPS on the carts. Nice all grass range that was unfortunately closed today. Very challenging layout in good late summer condition. Definitely recommended.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

PGA West Stadium is my favorite course in Palm Springs Area

This course as so many places that cause you trouble. Usually in the sand 4 times a round and 2 or 3 balls lost in the water bu today no sand and only one ball fell shot into the water. It pays off to use your brain and play a safer club around trouble. A good short game pays big time. Best round for me at this course, 82. 43 front and 39 back.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Tough but fun

Third time playing this course. I moved up to white tees and enjoyed it much more. Bring a few extra balls. I plan to play it again this week.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 20
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Not for the average golfer

This is course is not meant for the average golfer. Very difficult holes, many forced carries, very deep rough in spots. I consider myself a better golfer and this course completely beat me up, and it was not fun. For example, lost a ball 2 feet off the fairway. The round was also very slow in 100 degree heat, and very bad bugs on the first 5 holes (bring spray if you are playing in the morning). The greens were recently punched so dont expect good roll on your putts, also many of the bunkers were not maintained. The course Marshall was not very friendly (The course was empty behind us so I started over after 8 since it was so slow in front of us. The starter obliged, but for some reason was totally annoyed when he saw me on 16 again. Not sure I understood what happened) .

I would have expected more from this course.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 78
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 1000 Contributor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Love this course

Always great to play this course. Tee boxes and fairways were in great condition, but the condition of the greens were very disappointing. I checked the maintenance schedule and trusted when they said that if the course is open, that its playable. True...course had been opened a couple weeks after maintenance, but the greens were patchy dirt and grass. Very bumpy, sandy, and no true rolls. Not sure if it was just the hot weather or some other issue. I played the course once before a few summers ago and the greens were awesome. Just disappointing to hit the green and have no chance to make a putt. I played on an Underpar deal (free replay), so the price was right...I would still recommend the course as its an iconic layout and very challenging. Staff is top-notch and very accommodating.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Worst course conditions I ever played in my life

Should have taken pictures. It is hard to describe the condition of the greens. They were recently aerated but I have played recently aerated greens before and this was no excuse. 40% of the "greens" was DIRT. and excoriated dirt also. The tee boxes were lousy, the fairways were AWFUL but the greens were laughable. Everyone in my foursome agreed. We played other courses in the area during the 5 days we were there (some also recently aerated) and they were light years ahead of this course. Luckily I paid only $45....but I wouldn't waste my time if it was for FREE!!!!

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
First Time Playing

Very poor conditions ASK before giving your $$ how bad the course is.

Just finished spending a week in the Palm SPringgs area for a week of vacation golf. The highlight of the trip was a round at the PGA West Stadium course.

My nephew booked the course and we were all set.

Pro shop took our cash and off we went. Not ONE word as to the condition of the course.

The range was in great condition so it looked as if it was going to be a great day.

From the first tee, it was abundantly clear that even true resort courses at HALF the price were i better condition.

The tee boxes were sandy and half were filled with brown spots.

The fairways were pocked with brown spots.

And then the greens! I never have seen so much sand spread on greens. Even the fringe and second cuts were loaded with sand.

I get the fact that all courses need to aerate and sand for primo conditioning but these greens looked like they were punched at least 3 weeks ago and should not have had this much sand.

My biggest issue was the fact that the pro shop guys said NOTHING about the course conditions.!!

Had they mentioned this at all, at the very least, I would have had a choice to withdraw and play elsewhere. But to say nothing, take the money was a real bait and switch to me.

While $99 is a relative bargain for this course, it was way overpriced for the conditions.

We paid $39 for one resort course that totally eclipsed the conditions found this day.

Never again PGA West, never again

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Average
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Commented on 07/11/2018

Thank you for the recent comments on The Stadium Course at PGA WEST. We appreciate the time and effort that you put into your review - any feedback we receive from our guests is invaluable in our quest for continuous improvement. At the time you played, the course had just come out of an aerification and it generally takes ten days for the course to recover. However, the greens (and some fairways) took longer to recover because of the extreme heat and humidity we have been experiencing this summer. Aggressive summer agronomic practices are necessary to help promote healthy turf conditions - and it is not an exact science. The other courses in the valley perform aerification at various times during the summer so all courses are not in the same condition at the same time. There are also different varieties of bermudagrass at different courses (we have three different types throughout our 9 courses) and they do not all react and recover the same. We feel badly that you did not enjoy your round - that is not the way we want anyone to leave after playing PGA WEST. Please contact our General Manager, Darrin Harn at 760-564-7105 so we can learn more and invite you back to play under better circumstances.

Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 169
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Golf Channel
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Play The Course The Pros Play!

The Stadium Course at PGA West is a true test of your game. It puts a premium on your approach shots as well as your tee shots. The course was in great shape and I managed to not fall victim to the infamous bunker on 16! The finishing stretch of 16,17, and 18 is one of my favorite in golf. Such variety and beauty in each hole! Can't wait to play here again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

One off Bucket List

Great facility and the golf is challenging, but not as tough as the starter would make you think. The Stadium course was on the list because it's a Tour stop. The condition in late May was only fair and our round Memorial Day weekend was 5.5 hours. Great company and getting to play 16,17 and 18 well made the day!

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

PGA WEST

Tough layout, water water water....got to be straight, crazy deep bunkers. Green & manicured perfectly

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 209
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
California Advisor
Top 50 Contributor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Fun day in the desert

Fortunately was able to get a deal time so was a really good value. The course was in great shape from tee to green. Really love the greens here. Roll true and the speed I like, firm, fast, and consistent, but not lighting quick. The only beef I have, if you want to call it that, is that some of the clientele tend not to want to fix their divots. Would definitely play here again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Test ur GAME

Fair test w every shot a challenge. Very fun test of your skills. A must play when u come to the desert.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Always Demanding

Golfers not loving this course are just wanting something easier . Lots of fun every hole a scenic adventure . Play the correct tees . Unless you are an honest 5 or under play the whites or blue white combo

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 24
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Tough Track

Very tough course. 1 of 5 we played over a long buddies golf trip wkend. Had to play it as a bucket lister. Lots of water and bunkers that didn't make it any easier. Course was in great shape but not as pristine as when you watch the tour players come through it at the beginning of the year. Bring your A game!

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great time

Course was great, schedule was open we played 23 holes in 3.5 hours , cart services could be better but great course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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