PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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4.5
1197 Reviews (1197)
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3 Stars
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1 Stars
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Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
91.3%
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4.7
41 Reviews (41)
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Conditions
4.7
Value
4.3
Layout
4.9
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.9
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4.5
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4.4
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4.8
Pace
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4.7
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Course Highlights
This iconic stadium course delivers a bucket-list layout with stunning mountain views, challenging water hazards, and conditions that consistently impress recent golfers. Welcoming staff from bag drop to pro shop make every visitor feel genuinely excited to play.

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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Reviews

4.5
1197 Reviews (1197)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 42
Patio Dining 28
19th Hole Scenic Views 26
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 70
Water Hazards 67
Forced Carries 49
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 61
A Bucket list/Top 100 Pick 52
A Weekend Splurge 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 42
At a Resort 34
Convenient to the City 18

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Reviews 87
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 500 Contributor
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Rough is a little too much

You should not be punished for missing a fairway by 2 feet as our group was multiple times during the round. A ball rolling down the fairway and going off into the rough by a few feet should not be lost in the thick grass. Tees and greens were immaculate, but preferred the Norman Course over this.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

We survived!!

Had a great time. 8 of us took on this beast and survived. Everything from tee to green was perfect. It was 97 degrees with a slight breeze and the beverage cart every 4 holes. Fairways like carpet and medium fast greens were the norm. here. After we recoupe, we'll be back next month.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great experience

It is a beautiful course even in the rain with challenges with every shot. I'm happy to have played here.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Don't be in these fairways bunker

Amazing golf course with the par 5 16 hole and Alcatraz 17, love it

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

My fav place.

Stadium is my fav course. A Pete Dye design masterpiece. Its off season now, but the course is in great shape and the price is right.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

Bring your A game!

The Stadium Course is always a challenge. If you're an average golfer bring extra balls. Tour Quality course open to the public. You can't go wrong. Course looks and plays awesome as always.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

115 degrees

The layout is nice the greens are not good .the nice greens are for the people who pay 250.00 a round . People who are beginners should stay off all the courses.the staff are nice people

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 17
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Excellent conditions, Challenging test of your game

The TPC Stadium course at PGA West was in excellent condition for a summers day. There were a few browned out spots on the greens, but pin placements were smartly placed away from these areas.

This is a challenging course that doesn't let you get away with poor shots. Prior to playing, it would be helpful to hit some sidehill/uphill practice iron shots wherever you can, since you will most likely have a few of these if you miss a fariway.

Pace of play was great on a weekday morning and we finished in 3hr 45min.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Horrible greens. Total disappointment

I had never played the Stadium Course before, so I was super excited to play it finally. Got a good price because it was 110 degrees outside. I didnt mind though. But what a disappointment . The greens were horrible. Half of them were dirt. The rest of the course was great, but there should have been an alert on the golfnow website because it was a waste of money. I would expect that the course would notify golfnow or somehow let future customers of the bad conditions. I played Terra Lago the next day and their greens were perfect. All in all, it's a beautiful course, but it would have been nice to know ahead of time that the greens were in no condition to be played on.

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
3.0
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Over Hyped

I am a bogey player and found this course to be okay. Since it was the first time playing there I had only the preconceived notions about this course derived from what I had seen on television with the PGA tournaments played here. I didn't know where anything was on each hole. I suppose I could have researched it before going but I like the surprise. Since there are no maps at the course I had to fend for myself as it were. The overall course layout is pretty good. But all the extra landscaping done to make the course appear more challenging that is truly is was ridiculous. Undulating hills in the middle of the fairways and along the edges just made finding a ball harder and slowed the game down. If you can hit the ball fairly consistently this course isn't that difficult. The greens were good, just a few hard to read. Since this course is hyped so much there are a lot of people playing it and so a round takes a while. This course doesn't necessarily reward you for good shots but it sure does punish you for bad ones. I won't be back to play this on my own but if some friends want me to join them there I will. The best plan for this course is to stay to the right.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

TPC Stadium

Very playable. A bit difficult for first time playing. A bit hot. 115 degrees on course.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 14
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Course, bad experience

My friends and I had a bad experience playing the stadium course which will probably keep us from coming back. The course was great, but we had two different groups that somehow got on the course in front of us and did not have any respect for others on the course. One group had four people, with only two people playing, so you would think it would be fast, but when they started hitting two and three shots at each location it caused a huge delay. Finally they were kicked off, but that created a gap between the original group in front of us, and somehow another group hopped on the course for the last five holes. By a strange coincidence, they were taking multiple shots each as well. Yes, we still finished in a reasonable amount of time, but the delay caused by groups that appeared to not belong out there was very frustrating.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

It ate my lunch

I have never enjoyed a course eating my lunch like I do the Stadium course. You barely miss and you're punished. But, it was a blast!!! I'll be back next year!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Beautiful

Great course, great experience. Can't wait to play again! Dang bunkers!! Lol.

One negative was Pro Shop. Round ended late in the day, wanted to make a purchase, and the staff was less than welcoming! Quite a disappointment to an otherwise great day!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Great Greens!

Played the Nick Tourney and very much enjoyed the layout and tremendous quality of the greens. Look forward to playing it again!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Fair weather
Used cart

WOW!!!

WE PLAY MANY COURSES AROUND THE COUNTRY. THIS WAS IN THE TOP 3 OF ALL TIME. IMMACULATE AND DIFFICULT, BUT SO MUCH AMAZING FUN.

BACKED UP A BIT BECAUSE OF THE SPRINKLES.

IT DIDNT HURT OUR OPINION AT ALL. IT IS A MUST PLAY.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

True Players course

What an amazing experience! The facilities and staff are second to none. For the true golfer who is up for a challenge.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Good but not exceptional

To be honest, I was not as impressed with this course as I thought I would be, playing it for the first (and probably only) time. The course condition was not pristine, as I would have expected considering the premium fees one has to pay in order to play it. This may have been the result of the drought California has been experiencing for the past four years, but again, considering the green fees, I expected better maintenance.

The starter was very friendly and helpful -- I cannot commend him too highly. Sadly, however, the cart boys were sullen, refusing to take our cart after we finished playing #18 and requiring us to take it to the cart return ourselves. This is NOT the mark of a high-class golf facility!

As far as the course itself goes, it was challenging, but no more so than many others I have played. My son and I played the combo tees, and both of us shot to our handicaps. I had always heard what a "monster" it was, but found it to be an enjoyable course to play, the experience only diminished by a slow foursome in front and an impatient threesome behind us. All in all, I would recommend that a serious golfer play it once, but that would probably be enough. There are many courses that offer just as good an experience for far less money.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

see what the pros deal with

Great Course - fun, very challenging - Advice: play it at yardage shorter than you are used to --worth the $$$$$.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Classic Pete Dye Design

This is a classic Pete Dye design that is visually intimidating but very playable and fair. Many tee shots appear to offer only a sliver of fairway but in fact there is plenty to work with. This course boasts more very deep bunkers than you will encounter anywhere. Avoid them if you can. The greens are among the best you will play anywhere - quick and true.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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