Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
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| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Avid golfer
The starter was pushy and very bossy.
Bec cart lady was sweet sadly we didn’t see her until hole 12 but still bought something to support .
The gentleman who would check pace of play was very friendly.
Pace of play was amazing no one in front of us so that helped on a hot day.
Well maintained course
Had a great time golfing with my grandson. Would definitely golf there again
Fun and forgiving course
First time playing Talking Stick. Was amazed how green the fairways were for being the summer. The driving range and putting green was also in fantastic condition. Pace of play was very quick, sub 4 hours. Greens were brown, but was expected this time of the year with the heat. They rolled amazing which is all that matters. Can tell they take really good care of the course all year round. The course is very forgiving, there is no rough. Just huge fairways and desert landscape! Will be back for sure.
Impeccably maintained, fun layout
Course was really well maintained. No real flaws or negatives at all about our round. Booked through GolfNow and the price was pretty reasonable by Scottsdale standards. Fairways were wide and greens rolled flawlessly. Layout was fun and competitive, just wish the had sprinkled in a few signature/memorable holes. Great practice facility, nice clubhouse and drink cart made frequent rounds.
Still a great course.
Haven’t played Talking Stick in several years. The course was in great shape and still fun.
My only complaint was the pace of play. It took nearly 5 hours to play. Otherwise it was a good experience. I would recommend it to anyone.
Great afternoon on the course
Most holes have wide open space
Hazards are well placed for challenges
Can stay out of trouble if stay off the edges
Play was very smooth until 6th and then a major backup behind a foursome
Playing solo, you can expect some delays from a larger group.
However, when got to 6, the pair in front of me was waiting as soon the solo behind me was also done and waiting, with 4 tee times all logjammed at 6.
We decided to group up and play as a foursome and had a great afternoon
Happy golfer
Perfect weather! Great pace of play! Great breakfast in the new grill, perfect day at talking stick!
Good with the (very) Bad
I am staying in Scottsdale with my young grandsons. To escape the lunacy, I booked a tee time at the last minute on an other wise wide open afternoon on the North Course at Talking Stick. After paying, I approached the starter who said that I could not play as a single - “because I absolutely forbid it.” To reinforce his point he strode off to find anyone to pair with me. After a while he returned with a guy in a Golf cart who he proceeded to tell that he could not use it “because you only paid for 1/2 a cart in your green’’s fee.” We either had to ride together or go back to the pro shop and pay extra. Well, to avoid another 30 minute delay we headed to the first tee. I normally do not like playing with people I do know (and certainly would have gone elsewhere had I know of this treatment ahead of time) but my new “partner” turned out to be a nice guy, very interesting and carried a handicap close to mine. Anyway, we had a lively and enjoyable match on the front nine which he won by 2 strokes (largely because he cheated like a MF - but then it was a random Tuesday afternoon and certainly not a USGA event). We had fun. O’odham is billed as a “Links” design. As I have played more than 50 courses in Ireland (the Republic and the North) England and Scotland I think that is laughable marketing hype. Coore and Crenshaw would never say that. The course is flat easy and repetitive. There are some holes in the middle with fields of yellow flowers that look like heather. Those holes resemble English parkland courses like Walton Heath or Woodhall Spa. But those courses like Talking Stick are hundreds of miles from the closest water and would never be considered links. Anyway our very pleasant and enjoyable match continued until roughly the 16th hole when my new friend and partner could no longer easily get out of the cart because he had began drinking heavily on the first tee. Well, we hurried in while my cart mate got a call from his other friends who wanted to know why he was late picking them up. So we raced to the parking lot (or sorta close because of course we could not go there in our cart. My partner hustled away with not so much as a handshake as I stayed to generously tipped the attendant who seemed very funny and engaged. After hiking to the top of the steps I noticed that my very expensive, custom made 7 wood cover was missing. So I hiked back down to the cart return and asked about my headcover. The kid I had tipped said “oh yeah - I liked that - i distinctly remember putting that on your club”. No I said: you put it on the other guys club”. His response was: “I was in a hurry.” No apology. No remorse. S… happens.. The pro shop was even worse: “huh, what, beats me”. So I sat in my car and tried to order a new one even though it cost more than the round of golf. Well as you might expect -‘it is no longer made. So the best part of this long, silly tale is that I get to enjoy the hunt for a new headcover that will remind me to never book a round again at Talking Stick
Service for food and drink lacking
No phone number or QR code to order food on the advertisement in the cart as we approached the turn. Looked the number and called. Wrong restaurant? Were transferred to nowhere. Walk into the bldg that is completely unmarked, finally find a place to order and everything is 12-14 mins. Unacceptable. We were aware some of the amenities were new, but the absolute lack of thought in the rollout of whatever this was supposed to be was a giant mistake
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