Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.2
738 Reviews (738)
5 Stars
300
4 Stars
275
3 Stars
103
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
30
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.0
Layout
4.2
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.1
86.7%
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613 out of 738 reviews
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3.9
34 Reviews (34)
5 Stars
20
4 Stars
6
3 Stars
0
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
7
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.0
Layout
4.1
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.1
StaffFriendliness
4.1
76.5%
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26 out of 34 reviews
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4.2
110 Reviews (110)
5 Stars
55
4 Stars
35
3 Stars
10
2 Stars
2
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.3
Value
4.0
Layout
4.2
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.1
StaffFriendliness
4.4
83.6%
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92 out of 110 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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4.2
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Conditions Excellent
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Difficulty Moderate
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5.0
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Conditions Good
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5.0
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Conditions Good
Value Good
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Pace Excellent
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3.0
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Avid golfer

The starter was pushy and very bossy.

Bec cart lady was sweet sadly we didn’t see her until hole 12 but still bought something to support .

The gentleman who would check pace of play was very friendly.

Pace of play was amazing no one in front of us so that helped on a hot day.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Excellent
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Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing

Well maintained course

Had a great time golfing with my grandson. Would definitely golf there again

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 35
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a year
3.0
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First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
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Reviews 35
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a year
3.0
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First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
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Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Reviews 9
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

Great course overall

Always in good condition and is a high quality course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing

Fun and forgiving course

First time playing Talking Stick. Was amazed how green the fairways were for being the summer. The driving range and putting green was also in fantastic condition. Pace of play was very quick, sub 4 hours. Greens were brown, but was expected this time of the year with the heat. They rolled amazing which is all that matters. Can tell they take really good care of the course all year round. The course is very forgiving, there is no rough. Just huge fairways and desert landscape! Will be back for sure.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 343
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Top 50 Contributor
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
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Reviews 20
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Impeccably maintained, fun layout

Course was really well maintained. No real flaws or negatives at all about our round. Booked through GolfNow and the price was pretty reasonable by Scottsdale standards. Fairways were wide and greens rolled flawlessly. Layout was fun and competitive, just wish the had sprinkled in a few signature/memorable holes. Great practice facility, nice clubhouse and drink cart made frequent rounds.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 17
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Still a great course.

Haven’t played Talking Stick in several years. The course was in great shape and still fun.

My only complaint was the pace of play. It took nearly 5 hours to play. Otherwise it was a good experience. I would recommend it to anyone.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great afternoon on the course

Most holes have wide open space

Hazards are well placed for challenges

Can stay out of trouble if stay off the edges

Play was very smooth until 6th and then a major backup behind a foursome

Playing solo, you can expect some delays from a larger group.

However, when got to 6, the pair in front of me was waiting as soon the solo behind me was also done and waiting, with 4 tee times all logjammed at 6.

We decided to group up and play as a foursome and had a great afternoon

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 26
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Happy golfer

Perfect weather! Great pace of play! Great breakfast in the new grill, perfect day at talking stick!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
First Time Playing

Good with the (very) Bad

I am staying in Scottsdale with my young grandsons. To escape the lunacy, I booked a tee time at the last minute on an other wise wide open afternoon on the North Course at Talking Stick. After paying, I approached the starter who said that I could not play as a single - “because I absolutely forbid it.” To reinforce his point he strode off to find anyone to pair with me. After a while he returned with a guy in a Golf cart who he proceeded to tell that he could not use it “because you only paid for 1/2 a cart in your green’’s fee.” We either had to ride together or go back to the pro shop and pay extra. Well, to avoid another 30 minute delay we headed to the first tee. I normally do not like playing with people I do know (and certainly would have gone elsewhere had I know of this treatment ahead of time) but my new “partner” turned out to be a nice guy, very interesting and carried a handicap close to mine. Anyway, we had a lively and enjoyable match on the front nine which he won by 2 strokes (largely because he cheated like a MF - but then it was a random Tuesday afternoon and certainly not a USGA event). We had fun. O’odham is billed as a “Links” design. As I have played more than 50 courses in Ireland (the Republic and the North) England and Scotland I think that is laughable marketing hype. Coore and Crenshaw would never say that. The course is flat easy and repetitive. There are some holes in the middle with fields of yellow flowers that look like heather. Those holes resemble English parkland courses like Walton Heath or Woodhall Spa. But those courses like Talking Stick are hundreds of miles from the closest water and would never be considered links. Anyway our very pleasant and enjoyable match continued until roughly the 16th hole when my new friend and partner could no longer easily get out of the cart because he had began drinking heavily on the first tee. Well, we hurried in while my cart mate got a call from his other friends who wanted to know why he was late picking them up. So we raced to the parking lot (or sorta close because of course we could not go there in our cart. My partner hustled away with not so much as a handshake as I stayed to generously tipped the attendant who seemed very funny and engaged. After hiking to the top of the steps I noticed that my very expensive, custom made 7 wood cover was missing. So I hiked back down to the cart return and asked about my headcover. The kid I had tipped said “oh yeah - I liked that - i distinctly remember putting that on your club”. No I said: you put it on the other guys club”. His response was: “I was in a hurry.” No apology. No remorse. S… happens.. The pro shop was even worse: “huh, what, beats me”. So I sat in my car and tried to order a new one even though it cost more than the round of golf. Well as you might expect -‘it is no longer made. So the best part of this long, silly tale is that I get to enjoy the hunt for a new headcover that will remind me to never book a round again at Talking Stick

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Poor
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser

Service for food and drink lacking

No phone number or QR code to order food on the advertisement in the cart as we approached the turn. Looked the number and called. Wrong restaurant? Were transferred to nowhere. Walk into the bldg that is completely unmarked, finally find a place to order and everything is 12-14 mins. Unacceptable. We were aware some of the amenities were new, but the absolute lack of thought in the rollout of whatever this was supposed to be was a giant mistake

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
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