Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
809 Reviews (809)
5 Stars
346
4 Stars
293
3 Stars
109
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
87.0%
Recommend this course
677 out of 809 reviews
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4.6
67 Reviews (67)
5 Stars
45
4 Stars
17
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.5
Layout
4.5
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.9
94.0%
Recommend this course
63 out of 67 reviews
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4.3
102 Reviews (102)
5 Stars
65
4 Stars
22
3 Stars
6
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.6
85.3%
Recommend this course
87 out of 102 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
809 Reviews (809)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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2.0
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Unhappy with the course

Disappointed that we didn't get to play the South Course. We signed up for that one but relegated to the North course when we arrived. Felt it was not the best course for the money. Extremely boring course. We won't be back.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Extremely Easy
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Staff not attentive

Staff could be more friendly & attentive with service. While in pro shop, staff took my cart with all my belongings & hot dog, thinking I just abandoned it. Need more bathrooms or better locations on the course. Tee time was late in day (1:52),couldn’t finish course before sunset, drove off leaving 4 unfinished holes! Course was slow, no rangers to move it along.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 33
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

One of my favorite courses in Phoenix

It lacks the elevation change and wow factor of a lot of the bigger names, but this course has as much strategy and charm as any course in the Valley. It's wide fairways are forgiving and you're not likely to shoot a huge number here but the subtleties of the greens make it hard for even good players to go low. It's a great course.

It's in very nice condition right now. Greens are firm and rolling well, fairways also had some bounce. A couple areas around the green were a bot soft which was the only issue. Hopefully that will resolve as the course matures from overseed.

We played the front nine briskly then ran into a logjam of groups on 12. Even so we still played in under 4 hours which is not bad on a Sunday afternoon when following a junior event.

The junior event, however, did create my only real complaint for the day. The event put out special flags, all the same color, and the course didn't provide any pin sheets. So all day long we had no idea what the hole locations were from the fairway. That's frustrating on a course with relatively big greens, some of which are somewhat blind and/or not well defined. Otherwise, a wonderful day out on a beautiful November day in Phoenix.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 14
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

An excellent course to play it forward

I played the more forward tees and found it to be a very comfortable course, with interesting holes and great conditions. My wife played the most forward tees and found that she could reach the greens in regulation on most holes.

The most concerning part of the round was that the website and Golf Now said that it was not cart path only, but it was making for a difficult walk for my partner's bad knee. Lots of construction going on, but still worth the trip.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 17
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great Experience

Course was in great shape. Views spectacular. Very nice day of golf.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great local

Golfed with a local gentleman, who had great knowledge of the course and was very engaging!

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

A frustrating day

The round to over 5 hours and 15 minutes. When we got to the first tee we found out it was cart path only. The starter gave us the wrong score card (there are 2 courses) and the staff very poor.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Fair
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Nice course horrible pace of play.

Thé course is great. We probably fell on a bad day. First nine took almost 2.5. Hours to play. Horrible pace. Because of that we could not finish the 18th when the sun set. We never saw a Marshall on the course. It could have saved our round.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

CART PATH ONLY!

Golfnow did not inform us that it was cart only. We were very disappointed when we were told at the course.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Why cart path only?

playing a golf course in the middle of a desert it's puzzling to me one of the carts have to stay on the path. Useless water and let the cards go to the ball. It just slows down play.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart

Great Resort Course

Great layout and appropriate level of challenge for a resort course. It was in great shape and enjoyable to play. Unfortunately it rained for much of the round; nevertheless after a 40 minute wait for rain we were able to finish our round. It was nice to get dry towels after nine. The staff were particularly helpful and friendly. Hope to play here again someday (when its sunny).

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 34
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

First day of golf in AZ

Price was too high for the conditions. Staff did a great job.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great course and great value

The course was exceptionally well maintained. Greens were good and speed was average.

Pace of play was a little slow but tolerable.

Really enjoyed the north course and highly recommend it.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 44
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart

Very wet but still enjoyable

Played Talking Stick O'odham course on October 4, 2018 which was only two days after major rainfalls in the Phoenix area. Amazed that we were able to drive carts on the course! Several cart path detours due to standing water but the maintenance staff were working hard to remove the unexpected 'ponds'. Pace of play slowed a little by the wet conditions, but round still done in 4.75 hours.

It was our first time playing this course and we enjoyed the overall experience.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Top Notch

Total staff was professional and friendly. Wide open fairways give players with varied skill levels the opportunity to play shots to the green. Greens roll true and moderately fast. We will definitely be back next year.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Course conditiins

range and putting green closed, bunkers were hard as rock, course in bad shape due to rains...

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
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