Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
809 Reviews (809)
5 Stars
346
4 Stars
293
3 Stars
109
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
87.0%
Recommend this course
677 out of 809 reviews
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4.6
67 Reviews (67)
5 Stars
45
4 Stars
17
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.5
Layout
4.5
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.9
94.0%
Recommend this course
63 out of 67 reviews
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4.3
101 Reviews (101)
5 Stars
64
4 Stars
22
3 Stars
6
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
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Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.6
85.1%
Recommend this course
86 out of 101 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
809 Reviews (809)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
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4.0
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Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

great value

I have played Talking Stick North and South courses in the past and I have not had a bad condition round and the other day was no exception. Greens, fairways, tee boxes were all in great shape. I will be joining the Talking Stick Golf Club in October.

Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Commented on 09/19/2016

Hi Brandi,

Thank you for coming out and playing with us so many times. We are excited to have you join next month. See you at the course soon!

Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Talking stick

Long course only 2 par fives and a 260 yard par 3 7100 yards - greens in bad condition - typical desert course - if they would thin out the desert areas to make them more playable and at the minimum make their greens playable in the summer

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
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Commented on 09/06/2016

Thank you for taking time to leave a review and for the feedback regarding the course. We are always looking for ways to improve!

Played On
Reviews 12
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

North Course tough greens

The fairways are generous and the teens are huge. The difficulty increases when you have to read the undulating greens.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 56
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Talking Stick

I played Saturday, June 25th around 1030. Even with the heat the course was a busy place and pace of play was not smooth. They were letting twosomes go out and not pairing up groups and caused pace of play to be slower than it should have been.

Customer service was good throughout the day. Clubhouse and starter were both friendly and we saw the beverage cart numerous times throughout the round.

The driving range was chewed up and it was hard to find decent grass to hit on. The range is gigantic and it was disappointing to see this condition especially on a busy weekend.

The course was in good shape for late June in Arizona. Conditions throughout the round were consistent. Tee boxes were all level. The fairways were a little on the dry side but playable. The greens were in good shape and putted fast. Sand traps were a bit inconsistent. Some were nice and fluffy with plenty of sand while others were like playing out of the desert.

The North course is wide open and fairly playable. Some well struck shots are unlucky enough to find the desert with little to no chance of hitting out. Many desert areas are OB. My partner had a well struck drive roll three yards off the grass and under a dead mesquite tree.

I haven't played here in a couple of years and it was nice to play this course again. I'm not sure I could play this course regularly but right now the conditions are good to get a round of summer golf in at a place most people can't afford in the winter/spring month.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Enjoy the hot

Extremely hot day to play but with excellent results. The course was fun, wide open, and challenging yet never doubted as the course conditions remained up to par. Enjoy the warm breeze...

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Low cost but average course

Definitely one of the poorer courses in this region. Price is low so should not expect much. Pace of play was poor.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Good value

Played the North on a Tuesday. Rate was good. Liked the staff. Course was in great shape and played really fast. Not the most scenic in the valley but a good test

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 110
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 500 Contributor
First Time Playing

Talking Stick - North

Course was in overall good shape. The greens were very hard and would not hold approach shots.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great golf

Need to let us bring our own drinks or put out a few more beer and water carts.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 20
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

True desert experienxe

No snakes were found :-). Good track and fun to play. I recommend.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 324
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Texas Advisor
Top 25 Contributor
Previously Played

Subtle and fun Talking Stick North

Of the three courses I played on my most recent trip to Scottsdale (including We-Ko-Pa Saguaro & TPC Scottsdale Stadium), Talking Stick North is certainly the most understated, particularly considering how flashy the hotel is, with its nightly light show and clubs and bars inside.

But fans of minimalist Coore Crenshaw will still find a lot of beauty here despite a flat, mostly featureless piece of property. We often praise architects for their work on spectacular terrain. But Coore-Crenshaw deserve a lot of credit for the subtleties they've delivered in a fun routing at Talking Stick, just east of the 101 freeway and very accessible from Old Town and Sky Harbor Airport.

The routing has big fairways, some neat hole designs and a whole lot of solitude. Native American courses have the benefit of not needing any adjoining residential development, and Talking Stick, while about as flat as it gets, is still a really enjoyable loop. I favor the North, a more wide open links-inspired course, over the more traditional South, which has more trees and water.

There are a few operational shortcomings here: there was no ranger on the course, and a fivesome held us up pretty good. Also, the driving range closing at 2 pm (only on Thursdays) wasn't great, considering I showed up early for my tee time to hit balls, and there is no chipping/pitching green, which would have been a fine consolation.

But for stay-and-play convenience in Scottsdale, Talking Stick still has one of the best setups thanks to the price point of the stay-and-play package and uniqueness of the two layouts here compared to its nearest peers. I'll still not hesitate to go back.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

NORTH COURSE - 18 Holes

The excavated rough condition in the depressed area on the 12th hole of the North Course was unacceptable. Also, the music from the pool area of the Talking Sticks Hotel was too loud and could be heard on virtually every hole on the course.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

So Slow!

Course was in great shape, it was a perfect day for golf in the Desert. When we arrived staff were on edge, no carts were available until about 3 Min before out t-time. The course was way over booked, pace of play was an unmerciful 5.5 hours for 18 holes. It was apparent that course Rangers had any intent on enforcing pace of play expectations. In our opinion it ruined our experience, and we are not super fast players or low handicappers ourselves.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 23
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Poor Quality - Overpriced

Talking Stick is very run down. Almost $100 per person is definitely not worth it for this course. Plus the rangers quit early & we have a bunch of guys hitting into us on several holes even though they saw that we had to wait for the players in front of us. We will NEVER go back to this course again. Course is very flat & definitely not beautiful or interesting.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Poor
Friendliness Fair
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Enjoyable course

Had a great time playing this course. It is challenging, yet fair. I will definitely go back. Stopped to get a bite to eat when finished. Very disappointed wth the speed of service and the very short menu, though.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 27
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Average weather
Used cart

Wish it wasn't windy!

Course was in good shape, the greens were really hard, couldn't dent them let alone hold them. Many were so fast few in my group could keep a putt on the surface. Service staff was excellent. For the price I would expect gps.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Talkingstick golf

I found the course in very good shape, pace of play was good, price wasn't bad either.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 25
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Speedy round great course

Dropped off my clubs and everything went smoothly from then on. Checked in and was sent out to the driving range. Great way to warm up. To practice green.and off right on time. Played in 3 hours and 15 minutes. Greens were fast an smooth. Fairways were in good shape for the transition time of year. Would definitely recommend it.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Good location

Course is flat and wide ooen. Typical resort course but hoping for more than a back and forth layout with little differences in the holes. Price was steep as well for what you get. I will say food is excellent and the staff is great.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

GC Guy

North or South course.... either is awesome. Coore & Crenshaw design is superb!! I highly recommend this golf experience!

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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