Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Reviewer Photos
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Photo submitted by UEfwV8Z4RI3LAplQGGCt on 02/14/2026
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Photo submitted by UEfwV8Z4RI3LAplQGGCt on 02/14/2026
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Course Layout is great for the all golfers
It has been years since I played the North Course. What a treat. It was in excellent shape! We finished our round in just over 4 hours. I took a client and he thoroughly enjoyed it. All of your staff members were very pleasant.
Troon golf...nuff said!!
Talking Stick playing conditions always live up to the Troon standard for golf. The North course has a bit more of a "desert" feel to it than it's sister South course. Solid layout, with a good mix of risk/ reward, easy and bombers holes. You can't go wrong playing Troon.....
Great Conditions this Summer
The North coarse was in ideal conditions for summer. Good value this time of year.
Gatorade
Played on July afternoon and got lucky with cloud cover. Course was in excellent shape, played in 3 1/2 hours. Ranger came around with free water and Gatorade, Nice!
Don't waste your time.
The only reason I gave Talking stick one star for pace of play is because I can't figure out how to give them negative stars on this application. I work in the golf business and play a lot. I've never seen a course send out so many twosomes without pairing anyone up. There was no ranger and didn't have any staff that was remotely friendly besides the beverage girl. This course is boring and easy. Do not waist your time or your money on this course.
Good course but fairways cut too thin
Overall a good course but played hard. Fairways & greens were very hard. No ball marks on the greens which showed the hardness of the greens. Fairways cut too thin which made it hard to pick the ball off the fairway. But very open & forgiving. Very flat course.
Good Track, but Slow Greens
Super slow greens. A good challenge with some tough driving holes. Bring your driver to the green.
Excellent!
The chicken wrap was really delicious. Very impressed with the course conditions. The only change I would make is to add a little more speed to the greens.
Disapointed
When you have to wait at every hole the round has no rhythm and the price you pay is no longer a value.
nice experience
The north course which we played is very fair and playable. Greens were slower then expected but putts ran well.
Beverage cart discontinued service just after 4pm which was weird.
Would recommend to play if your in town
Lightning
Almost stopped playing due to the lightning. I was glad we stayed,it sprinkled on us 4 or 5 times. I thought the course was in great shape. Thanks
Good course
Great price, course was in great shape. Worth the money, would recommend.
great golf course, but sloooow greens
Both of the Talking Stick Golf courses are beautiful and always fun to play...BUT, i played there about 4 times between march and June and the greens were always super slow and not really exciting to putt on.
Also bunkers need work...rock hard and no sand at all.
Still a nice course that I can recommend
Great Facility
Great Practice Tee. The greens were great. The starters are a little confusing. Overall a great course.
Great course
Beautiful course with lots of wildlife. I seen coyotes, bobcats, road runners and lots of prairie dogs. I would definitely play here again.
great shape. slow greens
This is a fun course to play for all handicaps. But the greens are to slow.
Great Value from Golf Now
Our foursome played the course in 3 1/2 hours - great pace. Golf staff and restaurant staff (we had a very good lunch after golf) extremely friendly. Played North Course, and it was in very good condition.
Tee time was booked through GolfNow, and, was an excellent value for this course. Would definitely play again if the same offer is presented.
Fun Course
Played a day after torrential rains unusual weather for late May. Course was a little beat up by the rain with a lot of pounding in low areas. Overall the greens crew should be commended for getting it playable. Played on Sat afternoon in 4 hours!
Good Course, bad neighbors
Great deal off Golf Now; otherwise I do not play this or other resort courses as they usually ask a premium compared to other nice courses in the Valley. Was somewhat crowded on a Sat afternoon, which led to a 5+ hour round. "Bad Neighbor" was the Talking Stick Resort Hotel, which, though up to a mile away, played thumping party music audible from every part of the course. Was very annoying.
Talking Stick 1st time
First time at Talking Stick North....great practice area to warm up or work on game....course was in great shape and the greens ran true and good speed. Well worth the money spent. Will definitely play again.
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