Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
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| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Reviewer Photos
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Photo submitted by Ericm92 on 03/27/2026
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Photo submitted by UEfwV8Z4RI3LAplQGGCt on 02/14/2026
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Yalking Stick is a nice course to play.
The course was in good shape and it was a beautiful day.
The only negative was that the forward tees play a little long for my wife.
Greens are horrible. No grass
The greens were a shade above gray with little to no grass which is surprising for this time of the year. The pace was very slow and no ranger to be found
Talking Stick north and south
Overall the course was very good. The fairways had very generous width. Sand traps were plentiful but many were hard pan. Fairway condition was very good. Greens were large, very fast and moderately difficult. Speed of play was very good for a foursome.
Facility and set up.
Not being a gambler I had not been to T.S. Before. There are NO SIGNS directing you to the golf club! I Drove around for 15 min. And made a last ditch effort by driving to the end of the road, and there it is was! Ridiculous! Then the guy at the bag drop put my clubs on a cart and said I would find them down the hill behind the building. I said how will you know who's clubs to add to my cart? He said ask down there, he doesn't do that ! You would expect the golf shop to be in the front of the building, but NO! It is in the back with a dim sign above the door. After checking in the guy said to go out the door and down the steps to the back. What steps? They are down a hallway and not visible from the walkway! Finally walking down the cart path and getting my group together they sent us to the starter. But first I asked if they had cups for water. As extensive as this facility is they only had a water cooler, like the ones out on the course! The cups were not recognizable laying up on top of the cooler in a plastic bag, NO ice, NO covers! If I was paying full price I would be upset!
The Golf was great! Weird greens, super fast, like commercial carpeting; really hard to judge speeds of your putts! Just so different from most courses. Takes time to re-learn. Beautiful course, nice smooth fairways that don't break your back driving on them, a real plus! Thanks for the reasonable price! So tired of the gougers down here, so don't play as much as I used to. Gary
Pleasantly Surprised
I played a few of the better known courses on my trip to Phoenix but one of my afternoons opened up and I was able to squeeze in another round. I booked a tee time at Talking Stick's north course because I was staying at the resort and had heard good things about the course. Not knowing what to expect I was pleasantly surprised. Good overall condition and some pretty unique holes. 14 was a fun one and there were even horses next to the fairway. I would definitely return of the price was right. Not worth the $115 or whatever they charge for the morning times but I paid $50 and felt like it was a good value.
Underwhelmed
Have played this course many times in the past and loved it
the amount of trash in the desert areas along with un raked bunkers slow play and an overall sense of apathy from the staff made this round one to talk about and not in a good way
Thank you for taking the time to review us. I apologize or the experience you had upon your last visit. I would like to ensure you that we work daily for optimal conditions and I apologize who had not received those. We hope that you will give us another try. Thanks again for taking the time to review us and for the feedback. We greatly appreciate any and all feedback.
Poor Course Conditions
The fairways were muddy and there was standing water in many of the traps. The other traps were dried mud. The greens were like concrete and the groundskeeper decided to put every pin on the side of a sloping hill. Someone should explain that this is not the Masters and the course should be challenging but fair. Overall, I played at a number of other courses around Phoenix/Scottsdale where the fairways were lush and the greens actually held your shot.
Thank you for taking the time to review us. I would like to apologize for the experience you had upon your last visit. I can ensure you that we are working daily to provide optimal playing conditions and I apologize you had not received that. We hope that you will visit us again. Thank you for the feedback, we greatly appreciate any and all feedback.
Good value. Enjoyable round. Bunkering creates a challenging course.
Played from the black tees. 7000 yards. Challenging. Greens firm & fast. Bunkers create most of the challenge. Not much elevation change. Staff was excellent - from the clubhouse check in to the cart guys to the beverage girl. Very friendly! Would definitely play again - great value.
Thank you for taking the time to review our course. We are so glad you came out and enjoyed your time spent with us. Be sure to like us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter for special online promotions and offers. Thanks again for the review and we look forward to seeing you soon!
North Course
Wide open; almost no trouble. Very fast greens with some very unfair pin placements, in fact, outrageous.
Thank you for taking the time to review our course. We are so glad you came out and enjoyed your time with us. I would like to ensure you that the pin placements do change to different degrees from easy to difficult. Thank you again for the review and feedback, we greatly appreciate any and all feedback. We hope to see you again soon.
Spectacular Green
Fantastic Greens. Played 4 other course and Talking Stick North was in the best shape. Fairways were pure - Green were fast and smooth. A couple of tough pins but that is part of the gig there. I am a MN guy that goes to Scottsdale to play good but not overly expensive golf - and Talking Stick North - especially on Golfnow is a great price (but not cheap) and a phenomenal price.
Wished I would have played it all 5 days.
Thank you so much for taking the time to review our course. We are so glad you came out and enjoyed your time spent with us. Be sure to like us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter for special online promotions and offers. Thank you again for the feedback and we hope to see you soon!
very nice!
az. resident, first time on this course.
had an awesome time, paired up with a nice guy from texas.
we played GOLD/TEAL combo tees.
the greens were about the best i have ever seen.
fast, but true. the guy i played with dropped 3 or 4 putts over 25 feet.
we were a 2-some and never had to wait.
beautiful course and fairways and bunkers in great shape.
paid $85, which is at the top of my price range.
did not eat there.
definitely will be back.
fun to play
Course was in excellent condition, the fairways had been overseeded so it was cartpaths only. A bit of a pain but understandable
Greens weren't overseeded and were in great shape and true from green to green. Nice layout, not the longest course around but still fun some challenges. Good value.
Thank you so much for taking the time to review our course. We are glad you enjoyed your time with us and thank you for understanding about it being cart paths only when you came out. Be sure to like us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter for special offers and promotions we have available to you. Thanks again and we hope to see you soon!
How many yards to the hole?
The course was beautiful, well groomed and maintained. Vistas were amazing. However, the only yardage indicators were scattered on sprinkler heads. No navigation or traditional, colored markers. Also, cart usage was restricted to cart path only for no apparent reason. This contributed to a slower pace of play and much hiking, whuch, combined with no markers, led often to not having the correct club for the shot. The fairways were in great shape, not a lot of moisture, and no standing water. 90° rule would have made a huge difference, but honestly, I couldn't see why full usage was not available. Unfortunately these few inconveniences turned a great day of golf into an average day.
Thank you for taking the time to review our course. At the time you had played, we just overseeded the fairways which is why it was cart path only. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. We hope that you will come on back out and enjoy a great day of golf rather than an average day. Be sure to like us on Facebook or follow us on twitter for updates about the course as well as special offers and promotions. Thanks again and we hope to see you soon!
Very playable for any level golfer...wide fairways
Great driving range..friendly staff...course in good condition ..greens could be a little faster...had a couple of slow players joining us and the ranger did a good job trying to keep them moving...lunch in grill was excellent and pro shop had a nice selection of clothes
Good views
Everything satisfactory, but nothing special except golf course views . Good views of valley and landmarks. Overpriced !
Scottsdale Gem for fast play and practice
Course was pretty full but we made it around in 4 hours. Excellent practice facility. Very good value for a simple course that is playable. Bermuda greens take some adjusting to if you are used to bent grass. Overall a fun day on a well kept course that is close to the many features of Scottsdale.
Bland course with grainy greens
Talking Stick North was just OK, and I wouldn't play there again considering the great alternatives in the area. The course is very flat with very few interesting holes. And the greens were very grainy and bumpy. The pace of play, though was good and fast. And the staff was nice. But overall the course really was boring. Didn't feel like a nice resort course
Top Notch
Friendly and professional staff. The course was in great shape for this time of year. I will play here again!
Had a great time at Talking Stick North Course
Dylan was very friendly and helpful!
My husband and I had a terrific time at the course however we must work on our handicap, which is presently OUR SWING! :-) We are going to get to work on it since the weather in Valley is returning to paradise temps and we get some lessons. We absolutely love to play!!!!!!
Thanks for a great time Talking Stick~
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