Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
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| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Good conditions, nice course
Golf course is very flat, but in great shape. Some of the holes seem to blend together; somewhat lacking that "wow factor". However, what's nice about Talking Stick - North is the fact that there are no blind shots and what you see is what you get. If you're not right down the middle, be careful though, as balls can easily bounce from the fairway into the desert (no rough to slow your ball down). Great course to begin your trip on. I wouldn't pay $100 to play this course, but for the price we paid it was a good deal. I would recommend.
Missing Info
Highly anticipated to play this course. Disappointed that closing of driving range was not announced during the booking process. Staff snobishly denied allowerence of golf cart to parking lot citing "potential accident". Overall, staffs are cold to patrons. Nice course design, good fairways, poor green condition.
Tricky play with all the bunkers
It was a great experience, we have longed to play this course for a few years; but just never could find a reasonable price. The only thing that was somewhat annoying was the music from the "pool party" at the Talking Stick Resort, it should be turned down somewhat for the respect of the golfers who have aid good money for a nice peaceful round of golf.
must have paid someone for rating.
How Talking Stick gets the ratings it does is a mystery to me. It's a boring course with middle of the road everything. For me it was just a common municipal course with above average amenities. I gave it low scores to try and offset the fake or rose color glasses being used.
Not worth the $
Greens were shaggy & slow. Not expected from a course charging what they do. Pace of play was great . I played early but the bunkers were really wet as well with some having puddles still. Not what I was hoping for from a "known" couse as this one. I'm not going back unless the price drops.
A Round on Talking Stick North
Well laid out, premium on short game, greens can be tricky.
No other place to put in but the South
Course was disappointing in that something was happening with the greens--like fertilizer, or more sand. Everything but everything stopped very short. Is this the one closing in the peak of summer?
Good fairways. Awful greens.
I paid $96 to play and expected much better conditions. The greens were bumpy and almost impossible to putt. I cannot believe could charge this much for such a bad experience. Never again for me!
Nice resort course in Scottsdale
I played the south course in the past but this was my first time on the north. The par 70 layout was lush and green and the greens have lots of slope and elevation changes but were a bit bumpy. GPS on the cart was not active. The are many steep faced bunkers which must be avoided if you are going to score well as many were hard and water compacted. Most of the par 4's played long (ie. 400 + yards) from the back and middle tees unless your a big hitter. A nice practice facility and practice balls included with the round so get there early. The rack rate is a bit steep but if you can get a good rate it is definitely worth a play.
Snakes abound....
Design of course leaves a lot to be desired. There are no memorable holes...just dog leg right, then dog leg left and lots of bunkers (although good sand in them). The course plays somewhat long from the forward tees for women with a mid to high handicap.
There was one very large king snake in on fairway. However when we finished our round all the staff seemed to be up top and I had to take care of getting our clubs to the car by myself. I found everyone gathered around a small diamondback by the clubhouse and having all the staff standing around looking at it instead of assisting players was offensive.
Accomodating my time
I scheduled a time for after 3:00 PM (3:17) for the price break. I had forgot that time, so after completing a round nearby early, I got to Talking Stick early. The Pro Shop staff accepted my after 3:00 PM fee, booked on GolfNow, and sent me to the starter. The starter paired me up with another single and I was able to tee off 2 hours early. It was great! The course was in great shape and the carts were good. Although I would have like to see a club washer but more importantly have the GPS working that day. The woman I was paired with (Illinois) was a delight, and the father and daughter that joined us at hole 10 (Minnesota) were very nice people. As for me, I'm from California. My tip to make sure you have a fun game, play with people that make your day, and play from the correct tees - it was driver on every par 4 or 5 hole.
Nice course, fast greens
Course was in great shape. We played North course and it was great. Not too challenging, but there are some tricky bunkers if you land in them. Greens were really fast which added to some of the difficulty.
Easy does it
This is a nice, forgiving Scottsdale course. The fairways are ridiculously wide and forgiving, with no real rough. The desert comes into play, of course, on virtuallly every hole, but you must hit a really poor drive off the tee to find it. It's a nice course, fun to play and recommended for average to high handicapers. The combo Gold/Jade tees are really too short at 5900 yds but the Gold is too long at 6500. Pick your poison and enjoy.
Talking Stick
Found the course to be in great shape. It was fair and challenging. The pace was a little slow. Found the staff to be very helpful.
Great Course
I found his to be a somewhat challenging course...you need to have your "straight" game! Love to play it!
Terrific course
Very well maintained
Not as hard as stated but lots of challenging holes
Great Golf and Coyotes
I'm always impressed with the condition considering that there is so much play. Always try to include one of the courses in my visits to the Phoenix area.
Decent...
The course layout was nice, and I liked how every hole was straightforward yet challenging. No crazy doglegs or anything gimmicky.
I was expecting it to be more groomed and tight-cut than it was...tee boxes a little shaggy and the greens were not consistent in speed.
Not worth more then $80
This is a nice course but not nice enough where they can charge more then $80 .Its flat and all the holes look the same there's way better courses around and way better deals.
Great course
Great course and facilities! The North is harder of the 2 courses in my opinion, it plays longer and only has 2 par 5's, scoring on the shorter par 4's is a must to have a decent round.
great day at a great crouse
Weather and course where near perfect. The North course is a good test well designed. Played 18 in just over 3 1/2 hours. Not a fan of the bunker sand but other than that the course was in excellent shape.
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