Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
Reviews
Reviewer Photos
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Photo submitted by Ericm92 on 03/27/2026
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Photo submitted by UEfwV8Z4RI3LAplQGGCt on 02/14/2026
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Playing Talking Stick
The course did not have my name on the tee sheet. It was entered guest. A little disappointing.
Too pricey for the staff and carts
Not up to par with other high end courses in the valley staff was not happy to be there on Sunday.
I'm from the midwest never saw so many prairie dogs!W
It was a wonderful course to play, and I would enjoy playing it again.
VERY POOR Greens
I had high expectations when we pulled in. The staff was friendly and processed our payments quickly. The driving range was fine and we even teeded off a few minutes early.
The problem started when we reached the first green. It was not ONLY slow it was very bumpy. I found this same proble to be true on ALL 18 greens. This made it very difficult to enjoy the round because each hole ended with a slow/bumpy putting surface.
The head greens keeper need to talk to his counterparts at other courses like Whisper rock to see what can be done to rescue this course.
Talking Stick in NOT a cheap course and the amount paid was not reflected in the quantity of the greens. I will not return and advise other golfers to spend their hard earned money at one of the many other courses in the area.
very nice deser course--good value
nice course--good layout
not on the same level as the top end courses but definitly worth the $
we will definitly play it again
Good Course
I played the South Course, which was in good shape and fairly easy. Nice wide fairways, roughs with grass!, and lovely view areas. Staff were super friendly and helpful. Course is good for a range of players -- I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.
Great place to play
The staff,the course, the whole day was great, it wasn't over booked the pace was awesome we were done 18 holes in under 4 hours.The only down side of the course is that there is no GPS in the carts.
Casino golf
Our wives hung out at the casino while we played golf on a beautiful golf course. Win, win! Pun intended. Nice facility. Had a great time!
A good test and
Overall, it was a fun course to play. Tee shots are fairly wide with the challenge being the approaches. Course in good condition
Perfect for medium to high handicap
We were a twosome paired with a couple of other snowbirds and really enjoyed our round. Fairways were perfect. Range was great w/ all the balls you wanted to hit included. Huge putting area but a let down that there was no place to chip. Greens were just a bit slow and too firm for my liking. Overall would look forward to playing this course again.
Yalking Stick is a nice course to play.
The course was in good shape and it was a beautiful day.
The only negative was that the forward tees play a little long for my wife.
Greens are horrible. No grass
The greens were a shade above gray with little to no grass which is surprising for this time of the year. The pace was very slow and no ranger to be found
Talking Stick north and south
Overall the course was very good. The fairways had very generous width. Sand traps were plentiful but many were hard pan. Fairway condition was very good. Greens were large, very fast and moderately difficult. Speed of play was very good for a foursome.
Facility and set up.
Not being a gambler I had not been to T.S. Before. There are NO SIGNS directing you to the golf club! I Drove around for 15 min. And made a last ditch effort by driving to the end of the road, and there it is was! Ridiculous! Then the guy at the bag drop put my clubs on a cart and said I would find them down the hill behind the building. I said how will you know who's clubs to add to my cart? He said ask down there, he doesn't do that ! You would expect the golf shop to be in the front of the building, but NO! It is in the back with a dim sign above the door. After checking in the guy said to go out the door and down the steps to the back. What steps? They are down a hallway and not visible from the walkway! Finally walking down the cart path and getting my group together they sent us to the starter. But first I asked if they had cups for water. As extensive as this facility is they only had a water cooler, like the ones out on the course! The cups were not recognizable laying up on top of the cooler in a plastic bag, NO ice, NO covers! If I was paying full price I would be upset!
The Golf was great! Weird greens, super fast, like commercial carpeting; really hard to judge speeds of your putts! Just so different from most courses. Takes time to re-learn. Beautiful course, nice smooth fairways that don't break your back driving on them, a real plus! Thanks for the reasonable price! So tired of the gougers down here, so don't play as much as I used to. Gary
Pleasantly Surprised
I played a few of the better known courses on my trip to Phoenix but one of my afternoons opened up and I was able to squeeze in another round. I booked a tee time at Talking Stick's north course because I was staying at the resort and had heard good things about the course. Not knowing what to expect I was pleasantly surprised. Good overall condition and some pretty unique holes. 14 was a fun one and there were even horses next to the fairway. I would definitely return of the price was right. Not worth the $115 or whatever they charge for the morning times but I paid $50 and felt like it was a good value.
Underwhelmed
Have played this course many times in the past and loved it
the amount of trash in the desert areas along with un raked bunkers slow play and an overall sense of apathy from the staff made this round one to talk about and not in a good way
Thank you for taking the time to review us. I apologize or the experience you had upon your last visit. I would like to ensure you that we work daily for optimal conditions and I apologize who had not received those. We hope that you will give us another try. Thanks again for taking the time to review us and for the feedback. We greatly appreciate any and all feedback.
Poor Course Conditions
The fairways were muddy and there was standing water in many of the traps. The other traps were dried mud. The greens were like concrete and the groundskeeper decided to put every pin on the side of a sloping hill. Someone should explain that this is not the Masters and the course should be challenging but fair. Overall, I played at a number of other courses around Phoenix/Scottsdale where the fairways were lush and the greens actually held your shot.
Thank you for taking the time to review us. I would like to apologize for the experience you had upon your last visit. I can ensure you that we are working daily to provide optimal playing conditions and I apologize you had not received that. We hope that you will visit us again. Thank you for the feedback, we greatly appreciate any and all feedback.
Good value. Enjoyable round. Bunkering creates a challenging course.
Played from the black tees. 7000 yards. Challenging. Greens firm & fast. Bunkers create most of the challenge. Not much elevation change. Staff was excellent - from the clubhouse check in to the cart guys to the beverage girl. Very friendly! Would definitely play again - great value.
Thank you for taking the time to review our course. We are so glad you came out and enjoyed your time spent with us. Be sure to like us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter for special online promotions and offers. Thanks again for the review and we look forward to seeing you soon!
North Course
Wide open; almost no trouble. Very fast greens with some very unfair pin placements, in fact, outrageous.
Thank you for taking the time to review our course. We are so glad you came out and enjoyed your time with us. I would like to ensure you that the pin placements do change to different degrees from easy to difficult. Thank you again for the review and feedback, we greatly appreciate any and all feedback. We hope to see you again soon.
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