Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
809 Reviews (809)
5 Stars
346
4 Stars
293
3 Stars
109
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
87.0%
Recommend this course
677 out of 809 reviews
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4.6
62 Reviews (62)
5 Stars
42
4 Stars
16
3 Stars
3
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.6
Layout
4.5
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.9
95.2%
Recommend this course
59 out of 62 reviews
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4.3
101 Reviews (101)
5 Stars
64
4 Stars
22
3 Stars
6
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.6
85.1%
Recommend this course
86 out of 101 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
809 Reviews (809)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played

Playing Talking Stick

The course did not have my name on the tee sheet. It was entered guest. A little disappointing.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Too pricey for the staff and carts

Not up to par with other high end courses in the valley staff was not happy to be there on Sunday.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

I'm from the midwest never saw so many prairie dogs!W

It was a wonderful course to play, and I would enjoy playing it again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

VERY POOR Greens

I had high expectations when we pulled in. The staff was friendly and processed our payments quickly. The driving range was fine and we even teeded off a few minutes early.

The problem started when we reached the first green. It was not ONLY slow it was very bumpy. I found this same proble to be true on ALL 18 greens. This made it very difficult to enjoy the round because each hole ended with a slow/bumpy putting surface.

The head greens keeper need to talk to his counterparts at other courses like Whisper rock to see what can be done to rescue this course.

Talking Stick in NOT a cheap course and the amount paid was not reflected in the quantity of the greens. I will not return and advise other golfers to spend their hard earned money at one of the many other courses in the area.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

very nice deser course--good value

nice course--good layout

not on the same level as the top end courses but definitly worth the $

we will definitly play it again

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 44
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Good Course

I played the South Course, which was in good shape and fairly easy. Nice wide fairways, roughs with grass!, and lovely view areas. Staff were super friendly and helpful. Course is good for a range of players -- I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great place to play

The staff,the course, the whole day was great, it wasn't over booked the pace was awesome we were done 18 holes in under 4 hours.The only down side of the course is that there is no GPS in the carts.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Casino golf

Our wives hung out at the casino while we played golf on a beautiful golf course. Win, win! Pun intended. Nice facility. Had a great time!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 17
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

A good test and

Overall, it was a fun course to play. Tee shots are fairly wide with the challenge being the approaches. Course in good condition

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 15
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Perfect for medium to high handicap

We were a twosome paired with a couple of other snowbirds and really enjoyed our round. Fairways were perfect. Range was great w/ all the balls you wanted to hit included. Huge putting area but a let down that there was no place to chip. Greens were just a bit slow and too firm for my liking. Overall would look forward to playing this course again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Yalking Stick is a nice course to play.

The course was in good shape and it was a beautiful day.

The only negative was that the forward tees play a little long for my wife.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Greens are horrible. No grass

The greens were a shade above gray with little to no grass which is surprising for this time of the year. The pace was very slow and no ranger to be found

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap Don't know
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Used cart

Talking Stick north and south

Overall the course was very good. The fairways had very generous width. Sand traps were plentiful but many were hard pan. Fairway condition was very good. Greens were large, very fast and moderately difficult. Speed of play was very good for a foursome.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 20
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Facility and set up.

Not being a gambler I had not been to T.S. Before. There are NO SIGNS directing you to the golf club! I Drove around for 15 min. And made a last ditch effort by driving to the end of the road, and there it is was! Ridiculous! Then the guy at the bag drop put my clubs on a cart and said I would find them down the hill behind the building. I said how will you know who's clubs to add to my cart? He said ask down there, he doesn't do that ! You would expect the golf shop to be in the front of the building, but NO! It is in the back with a dim sign above the door. After checking in the guy said to go out the door and down the steps to the back. What steps? They are down a hallway and not visible from the walkway! Finally walking down the cart path and getting my group together they sent us to the starter. But first I asked if they had cups for water. As extensive as this facility is they only had a water cooler, like the ones out on the course! The cups were not recognizable laying up on top of the cooler in a plastic bag, NO ice, NO covers! If I was paying full price I would be upset!
The Golf was great! Weird greens, super fast, like commercial carpeting; really hard to judge speeds of your putts! Just so different from most courses. Takes time to re-learn. Beautiful course, nice smooth fairways that don't break your back driving on them, a real plus! Thanks for the reasonable price! So tired of the gougers down here, so don't play as much as I used to. Gary

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 16
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Pleasantly Surprised

I played a few of the better known courses on my trip to Phoenix but one of my afternoons opened up and I was able to squeeze in another round. I booked a tee time at Talking Stick's north course because I was staying at the resort and had heard good things about the course. Not knowing what to expect I was pleasantly surprised. Good overall condition and some pretty unique holes. 14 was a fun one and there were even horses next to the fairway. I would definitely return of the price was right. Not worth the $115 or whatever they charge for the morning times but I paid $50 and felt like it was a good value.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

pace of play was terrible.

Would not recommend this to any of my friends and will post this on Facebook.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
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Commented on 01/08/2016

Thank you for taking the time to review us. I would like to know more about what happened and what your experience was with us so we can improve. Please contact us. Thank you.

Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Advanced
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Underwhelmed

Have played this course many times in the past and loved it
the amount of trash in the desert areas along with un raked bunkers slow play and an overall sense of apathy from the staff made this round one to talk about and not in a good way

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Amenities Fair
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Commented on 01/08/2016

Thank you for taking the time to review us. I apologize or the experience you had upon your last visit. I would like to ensure you that we work daily for optimal conditions and I apologize who had not received those. We hope that you will give us another try. Thanks again for taking the time to review us and for the feedback. We greatly appreciate any and all feedback.

Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Poor Course Conditions

The fairways were muddy and there was standing water in many of the traps. The other traps were dried mud. The greens were like concrete and the groundskeeper decided to put every pin on the side of a sloping hill. Someone should explain that this is not the Masters and the course should be challenging but fair. Overall, I played at a number of other courses around Phoenix/Scottsdale where the fairways were lush and the greens actually held your shot.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
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Commented on 01/08/2016

Thank you for taking the time to review us. I would like to apologize for the experience you had upon your last visit. I can ensure you that we are working daily to provide optimal playing conditions and I apologize you had not received that. We hope that you will visit us again. Thank you for the feedback, we greatly appreciate any and all feedback.

Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Good value. Enjoyable round. Bunkering creates a challenging course.

Played from the black tees. 7000 yards. Challenging. Greens firm & fast. Bunkers create most of the challenge. Not much elevation change. Staff was excellent - from the clubhouse check in to the cart guys to the beverage girl. Very friendly! Would definitely play again - great value.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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Commented on 01/08/2016

Thank you for taking the time to review our course. We are so glad you came out and enjoyed your time spent with us. Be sure to like us on Facebook or follow us on Twitter for special online promotions and offers. Thanks again for the review and we look forward to seeing you soon!

Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

North Course

Wide open; almost no trouble. Very fast greens with some very unfair pin placements, in fact, outrageous.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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Commented on 01/08/2016

Thank you for taking the time to review our course. We are so glad you came out and enjoyed your time with us. I would like to ensure you that the pin placements do change to different degrees from easy to difficult. Thank you again for the review and feedback, we greatly appreciate any and all feedback. We hope to see you again soon.

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