Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
779 Reviews (779)
5 Stars
327
4 Stars
284
3 Stars
107
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
86.3%
Recommend this course
648 out of 779 reviews
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4.4
52 Reviews (52)
5 Stars
35
4 Stars
10
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.2
Layout
4.4
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.8
84.6%
Recommend this course
44 out of 52 reviews
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4.3
98 Reviews (98)
5 Stars
59
4 Stars
23
3 Stars
7
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.6
84.7%
Recommend this course
83 out of 98 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
779 Reviews (779)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Excellent course.

This was our first time playing this course. The course was challenging due to the depth of the bunkers. I was able to practice using my sand wedge on numerous occasions. The greens were very fast. It was difficult to get the speed right. Played with Bruce and Mike who were there for a convention. Really had fun. Temperature was 93 degrees but comfortable.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Busy course with wide fairways

Course really busy with lots of local and resort guests playing it. It has very wide fairways that sometimes make it hard to aim the drive to a target. The south course is probably a better choice than the north. Staff friendliness and maintenance management (sprinklers running on driving range just beside people hitting!) could be improved.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

One thing missing

No players assistant...front nine 2 hours hit a wall on back 2:40 to play back

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Not worth the money

Pace of play was terrible no ranger ever came by 5 -51/2 he round too slow with the temp it was today. Also doesn't anyone rake traps and repair ball marks.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Poor
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Not worth the money

Marshall refused to push group in front of us 2 holes open in front and made a 4 hrs round turn into 5 1/2 hour round. No sand in bunkers and why is it nobody rakes bunkers had to hit out of footprints will never play this course again and will caution anybody from playinj

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Poor
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 31
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Close to town

This is a convenient course as it is close to town, scenic and well maintained. The fairways are for the most part wide, the greens roll well, and bunkers are in great shape. The terrain does not allow for a spectacular layout but it makes for an enjoyable round that allows you to be home or at the casino at a reasonable time.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Lovely course; terrible music blasting from the casino

The golf course is wonderful if you can stand the loud music blaring out of the casino over the golf course. At times one can only hear the bass of the music and nothing else. It is terribly annoying especially when trying to golf. They need to turn off that terrible outside music so the golf course is quieter.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Easy lay out with wide open spaces

The course was in good shape considering it was 105 degrees out. The cart staff was really friendly and the starter got me going (a single) when there was a gap in play before some bigger groups went off. The beverage cart came around several times during the round to make sure all was well and the other golfers on the course seemed to understand that it was hot and kept play moving very quickly. I finished my round in 2.5 hours. Now realize it was the middle of the summer in Phoenix, super hot, and by myself, but you can get around this track pretty easily. The layout was really nice with no major overlap between holes. Some of the fairways are HUGE and didn't have a hard time finding even mis-hit shots. That sped up the round for sure. Overall had great afternoon of golf in the heat and would come back again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

117 degrees

The weather was hot, but the course was great and because of the heat, the pace of play was awesome! This course has some really good challenges and a variety of holes. The pin placements were tough on some holes, but overall, very nice course and fair. When I play it again, I will know better where to hit the ball to keep it in play.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Slow play

The course its self was pretty good even though the greens were aired one week before. However, the pace of play was painfully slow. It took my group about 4 and half hours to finish simply because we were waiting for the groups in front of us on every shot for the full 18. We did not see a single ranger on the course the entire time and the staff in the clubhouse actually double charged us on the payment when their computers went down.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Yardage Markers

The yardage makers were not very viewable. It was hard to get yardages to the pin with the second shot.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Good course

Great course, well maintained. Only complaint today was super slow play.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Course Layout is great for the all golfers

It has been years since I played the North Course. What a treat. It was in excellent shape! We finished our round in just over 4 hours. I took a client and he thoroughly enjoyed it. All of your staff members were very pleasant.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 163
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 100 Contributor
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Troon golf...nuff said!!

Talking Stick playing conditions always live up to the Troon standard for golf. The North course has a bit more of a "desert" feel to it than it's sister South course. Solid layout, with a good mix of risk/ reward, easy and bombers holes. You can't go wrong playing Troon.....

Conditions Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Conditions this Summer

The North coarse was in ideal conditions for summer. Good value this time of year.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Gatorade

Played on July afternoon and got lucky with cloud cover. Course was in excellent shape, played in 3 1/2 hours. Ranger came around with free water and Gatorade, Nice!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Don't waste your time.

The only reason I gave Talking stick one star for pace of play is because I can't figure out how to give them negative stars on this application. I work in the golf business and play a lot. I've never seen a course send out so many twosomes without pairing anyone up. There was no ranger and didn't have any staff that was remotely friendly besides the beverage girl. This course is boring and easy. Do not waist your time or your money on this course.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Walked

Good course but fairways cut too thin

Overall a good course but played hard. Fairways & greens were very hard. No ball marks on the greens which showed the hardness of the greens. Fairways cut too thin which made it hard to pick the ball off the fairway. But very open & forgiving. Very flat course.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Good Track, but Slow Greens

Super slow greens. A good challenge with some tough driving holes. Bring your driver to the green.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Excellent!

The chicken wrap was really delicious. Very impressed with the course conditions. The only change I would make is to add a little more speed to the greens.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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