Piipaash at Talking Stick GC - #12
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4.2
1881 Reviews (1881)
5 Stars
733
4 Stars
701
3 Stars
282
2 Stars
106
1 Stars
59
Conditions
4.3
Value
4.0
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.2
84.7%
Recommend this course
1511 out of 1881 reviews
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4.2
66 Reviews (66)
5 Stars
37
4 Stars
18
3 Stars
5
2 Stars
2
1 Stars
4
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.6
84.8%
Recommend this course
56 out of 66 reviews
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4.2
93 Reviews (93)
5 Stars
50
4 Stars
26
3 Stars
9
2 Stars
4
1 Stars
4
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.0
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.5
83.9%
Recommend this course
78 out of 93 reviews
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Course Highlights
The Piipaash course consistently impresses with fast greens, manicured fairways, and well-kept bunkers that reward focused play. Exceptionally friendly staff, a well-stocked driving range, and strong overall value make this a compelling booking.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Traditional
Par 71
Length 6833 yards
Slope 126
Rating 72.0

The Talking Stick Golf Club, designed by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, offers two uniquely different courses that each offer many options according to your playing skill. The Piipaash course (previously known as South at Talking Stick Golf Club), with its tree-lined fairways and raised greens defended at the sides offers a more straightforward style of play than the O'odham Course (formerly known as North at Talking Stick Golf Club).

A round of golf on the Piipaash Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club kicks off on a par-4 hole that measures 405 yards from the Black tees. Three long par-5 holes ensures that power golfers will get their kicks, with the fifth hole coming in at 516 yards, the 1fourth measuring 541 and the 16th playing to 548. The round of golf concludes on a relatively shorter par 4 that measures 323 yards.

After a round of golf on the North Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club, head back to the Wildhorse Grille for drinks and a bite to eat.

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Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipaash (South)
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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms
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Reviews

4.2
1881 Reviews (1881)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 41
Patio Dining 23
Brunch 18
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 97
Undulating Greens 52
Plays Long 35
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 55
A Weekend Splurge 51
Locals 50
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 87
Convenient to the City 79
Near Local Attractions 42

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Reviews 2
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Under construction

Beware the Clubhouse is under construction.

We love to get something to eat at courses before the round, here is a food truck next to the outhouses.

Not worth the $ to many other options

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Construction on new clubhouse was annoying, if I would have known in advance I wouldn’t have booked it.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 39
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Used cart

Under Construction

This was a good, but not great course. Quite flat but pretty open. It was in really good shape. Tee boxes were in better shape than Southern Dunes that we played the day before. The clubhouse and other areas were under construction, so that distracted a bit from the asthetics of the place. No GPS in the cart and my handheld GPS didn't pick up the course for some reason.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Apples to Oranges compared to Scottsdale Resort Courses. Not worth what they charge.

No bang for the buck here. The atmosphere here is like a Muni. Courses very forgiving which is a positive. Nice layout. Majority of the holes have the same feel. Greens full of ball marks…. For the rates they charge, no bottled water provided. No GPS in carts. I’d go back at a $85 rates. Anything north of that, forget about it.

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Fair
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 17
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 15
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Disappointed

Had heard so much about these courses. Piipash was in fine shape and the staff was exceptional. The disappointment comes from the amenities… mostly the lack of.. the rehab project will only enhance the overall experience there, but right now, it’s a mess.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Everything at one place

Great Course with a Casino connected with great food

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Good, but not great for the money

Overall, we were glad we played here. The course conditions were good, but not great, especially for the price (and yes, I get it’s peak season). Lots of patches in the fairways, and far too many people don’t fix they marks on the greens. The greens were a consistent speed, and the false fronts added an extra layer of difficulty. I was quite impressed with the bunkers, and how well the sand played (I had several green side bunker plays). Overall, good course, but again not in as good of shape as I would expect for the price markup. Especially since the clubhouse construction makes food and pre/post-game impossible onsite.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0

Fastest greens in the valley!

Wow!!! Crazy fast greens. Our foursome three putted soooo many greens. Greens were in very good shape if you like fast greens.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 43
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 5
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 38
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Used cart

A top place to play

I played with a good friend on a vacation trip. We are both 12-15 handicap golfers. We played the O'odham courses. Conditions were immaculate everywhere on the course. Greens and bunkers were as good as any I've ever played. Critical to play the right tee boxes. We played the second longest tees, Gold, 6,510 yards. It's a bit long for me but I had no problem carrying the waste areas and hitting fairways. I did hit more 4 hybrids than 8 irons to the green than normal, but the course didn't feel too long if you're 225+ off the tees. The next shorter tees were 5,945, which seemed too short for us. In hindsight we made the right choice. The course is not difficult in you play the right tees.

We played 3 courses while in the area: here, Camelback-Ambiente and We-Ko-Pa-Saguaro. All the courses were excellent but pricey. We preferred We-Ko-Pa for the scenic beauty and elevation changes, but O'odham was excellent with the most generous fairways. The clubhouse is begin redone in 2023 so the enmities were rather spartan but worked well for us. Hot coffee and a wonderful burrito breakfast sandwich on a cool morning really hit the spot. All the people working there were fantastic, and we would definitely play it again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Cold weather
Used cart

S L O W

The pace is so slow and was told that never play here on weekends. Marshall was around but for some reason, every single hole, we had to wait for at least 10 minutes. We could not finish 18 holes as it was already dark. Very disappointed with my experience at this golf course.

Conditions Good
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Talking Stick is a great course

We really enjoyed the course. The pro staff, cart person, starter, and bar attendants were all very friendly.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Good course not great

Greens in very good condition for a resort course

The club house just started construction (Jan 2023) and will be out of commission until late 2024. Food truck and portable trailer bathrooms. No changing area.

Course Layout is fine. Nothing memorable. A lot of back and forth fairways

Ropes everywhere to prevent going onto other fairways or to avoid going off course. However zero white stakes.

Fair market value for this sort of course is $150-200 max. Don’t pay more.

Staff was great people. Every position very friendly

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
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