Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipaash Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club, designed by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, offers two uniquely different courses that each offer many options according to your playing skill. The Piipaash course (previously known as South at Talking Stick Golf Club), with its tree-lined fairways and raised greens defended at the sides offers a more straightforward style of play than the O'odham Course (formerly known as North at Talking Stick Golf Club).
A round of golf on the Piipaash Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club kicks off on a par-4 hole that measures 405 yards from the Black tees. Three long par-5 holes ensures that power golfers will get their kicks, with the fifth hole coming in at 516 yards, the 1fourth measuring 541 and the 16th playing to 548. The round of golf concludes on a relatively shorter par 4 that measures 323 yards.
After a round of golf on the North Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club, head back to the Wildhorse Grille for drinks and a bite to eat.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 71 | 6833 yards | 72.0 | 126 |
| Gold | 71 | 6430 yards | 69.7 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 71 | 6430 yards | 75.2 | 130 |
| Gold/Jade | 71 | 6040 yards | 67.4 | 117 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 71 | 6040 yards | 72.0 | 123 |
| Jade | 71 | 5331 yards | 64.9 | 108 |
| Jade (W) | 71 | 5331 yards | 69.1 | 117 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.0/126 | 405 | 419 | 228 | 327 | 471 | 386 | 516 | 476 | 177 | 3405 | 404 | 392 | 441 | 152 | 541 | 443 | 548 | 184 | 323 | 3428 | 6833 |
| Gold M: 69.7/120 W: 75.7/129 | 391 | 397 | 195 | 309 | 447 | 363 | 496 | 455 | 155 | 3208 | 384 | 358 | 417 | 136 | 521 | 417 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3222 | 6430 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.4/117 W: 73.8/125 | 391 | 351 | 125 | 309 | 402 | 363 | 496 | 388 | 155 | 2980 | 384 | 358 | 343 | 136 | 489 | 361 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3060 | 6040 |
| Jade M: 64.9/108 W: 69.6/118 | 332 | 351 | 125 | 288 | 402 | 278 | 411 | 388 | 106 | 2681 | 273 | 276 | 343 | 102 | 489 | 361 | 400 | 118 | 288 | 2650 | 5331 |
| Handicap | 13 | 3 | 7 | 17 | 1 | 15 | 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 6 | 4 | 14 | 18 | 12 | |||
| Par | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 35 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 71 |
| Handicap (W) | 7 | 9 | 17 | 13 | 3 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 15 | 14 | 6 | 10 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 12 |
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Photo submitted by mikie253 on 01/31/2026
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 5 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 12 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Photo submitted by u00000472983 on 07/10/2025
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Photo submitted by ranretired on 03/28/2023
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Photo submitted by TonyFagan58 on 03/09/2023
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Photo submitted by TonyFagan58 on 03/09/2023
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Photo submitted by mason2289 on 01/07/2023
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Photo submitted by u040961220 on 10/07/2022
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Photo submitted by u040961220 on 10/07/2022
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Photo submitted by u106838086 on 03/04/2022
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Photo submitted by Bigjamaican on 12/13/2021
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Photo submitted by peachbug on 12/07/2021
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Photo submitted by u000005667764 on 07/03/2021
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Photo submitted by uBYTE1254BY on 05/05/2021
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Photo submitted by u314161161496 on 01/23/2021
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Photo submitted by MStewartC2C on 01/02/2021
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Photo submitted by u454189909 on 08/23/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by garthstewart on 05/03/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/28/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by sfdc76 on 03/15/2020
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Photo submitted by cbatman on 01/25/2020
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by u314159545107 on 08/22/2019
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Eighteen green Photo submitted by Rosey461 on 06/16/2014
Pace of Play
The staff were friendly and we enjoyed the course layout even as they were preparing for over seeding. Pace of play was horrible. We waited every single hole and didn’t see one marshall. We felt like it was a golf ‘factory’ where they were getting as many green fees as possible regardless of how it affected quality or pace of play. Disappointing!
Dead Cart
Our cart died and we walked almost 2 holes before a new cart arrived. Staff in the proshop gave a half way apology and not even a small refund. For the price one has to pay to play this course in an area of many top quality courses we found that quite disappointing.
Nice Course
Not too bad for a course that was definitely getting ready to go through their over seeding season. Would have been better value for a reduced fee though.
Slow play and boring course
Terrible pace of play…. Not a single memorable hole. We even got a military discount and would really like my money back.
4 3/4 hours….just crazy. They would like to be a high end golf facility but it would take an act of hood for that to happen!
Rude employees. Not going back even if it was compt!
Some great views and difficult holes
This course was really BEAUTIFUL. The staff was great, the course was in great shape, the weather was nice and hot, but the pace of play was terrible. Our tee time was 2:21PM and we could not play the last two holes because of darkness. Two groups ahead of us were very very slow and held everyone up. There is no need for that, if they can't keep up the pace, move them along, why make everyone else miserable.
Rude Staff and Boring Flat Course
We teed off 4 minutes early behind a twosome and by the 5th hole we were being told by a marshall to speed up. He showed back up on the 8th hole and yet again told us to speed up even though we were under two hours on the 8th hole. He wanted to argue about pace of play when the group behind us wasn't even teeing off yet. At the turn we grabbed hot dogs and drinks and the group behind us caught us on the 10th hole. We offered to let them play thru and they happily declined. On the 11th hole the same Marshall was waiting for us yet again and said he needs to have a conference with our group. 1 minute later a manager showed up with him to tell us pace of play on the front 9 was under 2 hours. According to him we should be an entire hole ahead and need to keep with the pace of the group in front of us. It didn't matter how many people are in front of us, we need to stay with that group. Even if we have 4 and they have 1 player. He finally admitted that pace of play was over 4 hours and we were 10 minutes behind. We finished our round in 4hr17mins. We never did speed up and were only 7 minutes off pace. We have over 50 years of golfing experience between the 3 of us in our group playing courses all over the world and have never been harassed by staff like we were on Monday. One of us was playing the best back 9s of his life and he had to tee off while the manager was arguing with us about pace of play. He wanted to argue on the green target than moving up to the next tee box or letting us go so we could actually speed up. Extreme lack of professionalism and we will not be back. Space out your tee times not then 10 minutes or group up twosomes.
Worth the drive from Scottsdale
In the midst of overseeding season, I expanded my search to find a tee time at a reasonable rate. Talking Stick (N) was in very good condition. The course has enough content to challenge lower handicappers yet forgiving enough to be playable for less experienced golfers. I will return when back in the area in the future.
Nice Course
Nice hot 105 degree day going into fall so conditions were good considering the time of year. Cart girl was prompt and courteous and they also had water in the jugs. (not all courses have this for some reason) Staff was friendly and attentive . Course has no water hazards so trouble is in the desert. First couple holes don't go left or you are over a barbed wire fence. Play was fast and did our round under 4 hours. Greens were deceptively slow but rolled mostly true. Would definitely play again (especially with fire deal rate).
Great to Golf
In spite of a desert sand storm the course was great to play in early October. Greens are challenging, scenery good, road runners everywhere! Facility is well kept even as most courses were closed for over seeding.
Desert Play - It’s hot!
If you can handle the Arizona sun and heat for 18 holes with no relief, than you will be fine playing here. We were surprised at the lack of shade throughout the course. We kept looking for a tree to park our cart under as we waited for the group in front of us, but there was very little foliage to be found.There is limited water coolers at the tee boxes, but thankfully we brought our own. The beer-cart came often and the prices were reasonable. There are no ball cleaners at any of the holes, but since you are playing in mostly desert sand there is little cleaning to do. Very wide open fairways with only sand traps and desert for hazards. For these out of towners, we were not experienced enough to play in this type of heat.
Very nice golf course
Convenient location from scottsdale. Greens were true and fairways were in great shape. Longish but not difficult
Great condition
Greens run great. Fairways nice and green still. Hot deal on golf now 29.99. Started at 3ish got done before the sun went down. Pace of play was great! Will come back again!
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