PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1442 Reviews (1442)
5 Stars
865
4 Stars
371
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
93.0%
Recommend this course
1266 out of 1442 reviews
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4.7
70 Reviews (70)
5 Stars
54
4 Stars
14
3 Stars
2
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.7%
Recommend this course
67 out of 70 reviews
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4.7
118 Reviews (118)
5 Stars
91
4 Stars
23
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.8%
Recommend this course
113 out of 118 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1442 Reviews (1442)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 20
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

New Greens and Bunkers

We played this course for the first time in over a year. They cleaned up a lot of the brush and put new sand in the bunkers and redid the greens. Sand in the bunkers is some of the best I've played from in a while. New greens however were well, new greens. Very hard but they did hold better than I anticipated. Biggest issue I had was the roll. Not complaining, they are what they are, new greens. Overall, if you've played this course before, you might not noticed a lot of difference in the layout, just easier to get around and less overgrown. Overall, very nice course.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Good course

New greens. Probably the most playable of all 5 of the public PGA West courses. Nice layout. Not overwhelming. Ponds have 1lb bass cruising around. Bring fishing pole. Staff is super friendly. I guess this is the least popular course since it’s all by itself, but this is the course I’d play daily.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

The snowbirds have flown home and the desert is ours. The course was perfect and am grateful to have reasonable rates and fast pace of play for a championship course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 17
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Condition

Hadn’t played it in years and really enjoyed coming back to play it.

Will definitely have this on our next list of courses for our next golfcation.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 57
Skill Beginner
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Nice but slow

The course is in very good condition but the bunkers not so good. We were told they are completely redoing the course in a couple of months. Our issue was the 4 3/4 hour round and not a ranger in site. We will not play here again when there are so many other exceptional courses nearby.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Played On
Reviews 11
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 37
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Course was perfect playing condition

Staff at club house is Great was Fabulous Definitely Will play again soon

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 220
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 1000 Contributor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0

Brian at the countet

I have never felt so unwelcome anywhere in my life. 10am thursday Brian acted as if we were pond scum. While out at the driving range I inquired of two other groups and on the course one other group if they had any issues checking in. All three groups , on their own, said exactly the same thing. The young girl behind the counter was nice, the starter was nice and Brian was a jerk. 5 1/2 slow play did not help. I am local and have considered moving to Greg Norman, have dined there, would consider joining, but what a turn off.

Conditions Excellent
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Poor
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 13
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

All pga west courses in great shape

Can’t go wrong playing here. Tough holes, easy holes, long holes, short holes. Great condition. Something for everyone.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Patience is a virtue

Pace of play was horrible. 11: O clock tee time 5.5 hour round. Front desk pro shop employee was either having a bad day or he is severely misplaced in his choice of occupation, he should look into cleaning stalls at the polo grounds, that might be a good fit.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

COUNTRY CLUB CONDITIONS

We were very impressed with the condition of the course. It was a 9 out of 10!

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 39
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Amazingly groomed

Would play this course every weekend if I lived out there.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 30
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Excellent
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