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PGA WEST Greg Norman Course
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The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.
No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."
"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."
Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.
Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.
What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.
Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.
"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 72 | 7156 yards | 75.1 | 139 |
| Black (W) | 72 | 7156 yards | 81.9 | 145 |
| Blue | 72 | 6671 yards | 72.8 | 133 |
| Blue (W) | 72 | 6671 yards | 79.2 | 137 |
| Blue/White | 72 | 6427 yards | 71.5 | 128 |
| Blue/White (W) | 72 | 6427 yards | 77.7 | 134 |
| White | 72 | 6227 yards | 70.6 | 126 |
| White (W) | 72 | 6227 yards | 76.6 | 131 |
| Gold | 72 | 5751 yards | 68.4 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 72 | 5751 yards | 73.4 | 126 |
| Gold/Red | 72 | 5523 yards | 67.0 | 115 |
| Gold/Red (W) | 72 | 5523 yards | 72.4 | 123 |
| Red | 72 | 5297 yards | 65.6 | 112 |
| Red (W) | 72 | 5297 yards | 71.4 | 120 |
| Silver | 72 | 3978 yards | 59.7 | 98 |
| Silver (W) | 72 | 3978 yards | 63.1 | 108 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 | 409 | 526 | 477 | 140 | 380 | 481 | 181 | 617 | 359 | 3570 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 216 | 443 | 431 | 537 | 180 | 461 | 3586 | 7156 |
| Black/Blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 | 409 | 526 | 449 | 140 | 380 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 359 | 3448 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 537 | 161 | 440 | 3469 | 6917 |
| Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 | 379 | 499 | 449 | 137 | 349 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 339 | 3337 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 513 | 161 | 440 | 3334 | 6671 |
| Blue/White M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 | 352 | 499 | 419 | 137 | 349 | 420 | 144 | 561 | 339 | 3220 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 513 | 142 | 405 | 3207 | 6427 |
| White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 | 352 | 470 | 419 | 111 | 317 | 420 | 133 | 561 | 317 | 3100 | 370 | 272 | 507 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 491 | 142 | 405 | 3127 | 6227 |
| White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 | 329 | 470 | 384 | 111 | 317 | 395 | 133 | 531 | 317 | 2987 | 331 | 272 | 507 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 491 | 126 | 374 | 2965 | 5952 |
| Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 | 329 | 440 | 384 | 105 | 289 | 395 | 96 | 531 | 292 | 2861 | 331 | 262 | 457 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 476 | 126 | 374 | 2890 | 5751 |
| Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 | 329 | 440 | 350 | 105 | 289 | 370 | 96 | 509 | 292 | 2780 | 331 | 262 | 425 | 129 | 351 | 335 | 442 | 126 | 342 | 2743 | 5523 |
| Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 | 298 | 407 | 350 | 94 | 264 | 370 | 84 | 509 | 283 | 2659 | 305 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 337 | 335 | 442 | 102 | 342 | 2638 | 5297 |
| Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 | 298 | 407 | 262 | 94 | 264 | 266 | 84 | 376 | 283 | 2334 | 224 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 248 | 247 | 442 | 102 | 256 | 2294 | 4628 |
| Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 | 216 | 305 | 262 | 86 | 198 | 266 | 73 | 376 | 212 | 1994 | 224 | 170 | 313 | 107 | 248 | 247 | 324 | 95 | 256 | 1984 | 3978 |
| Handicap | 9 | 13 | 3 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 18 | 16 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 6 | 14 | 4 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 72 |
| Handicap (W) | 9 | 13 | 5 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 7 | 10 | 18 | 8 | 14 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 16 | 6 |
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Photo submitted by erbu4081 on 11/05/2025
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 07/18/2025
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 07/18/2025
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 07/18/2025
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Photo submitted by johnwhite1727 on 06/05/2025
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Windy day Photo submitted by 43VUiyb2K5WWxq1MWcZc on 10/19/2024
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Go Get’em Photo submitted by u000005458741 on 05/13/2024
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16th hole Photo submitted by Peter2461971 on 04/30/2024
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Photo submitted by Chris2330035 on 03/05/2024
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Photo submitted by Tigerfan867 on 02/14/2024
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Photo submitted by Tigerfan867 on 02/14/2024
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Photo submitted by bchavez06 on 09/04/2023
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Photo submitted by bchavez06 on 09/04/2023
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Photo submitted by u484466922 on 06/20/2023
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Photo submitted by EricDSebring on 06/07/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by u314159420178 on 01/19/2023
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Photo submitted by Timbuktulous on 10/24/2022
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Photo submitted by gjscott3rd on 09/12/2022
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Photo submitted by gjscott3rd on 09/12/2022
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Par 3 4th Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Bunker at 14 Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Photo submitted by golferchic78 on 11/13/2021
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13th hole — land it short of the pin! Photo submitted by u314161211354 on 03/09/2021
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Perfect day Photo submitted by u119001050 on 11/15/2020
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View from 8th tee box Photo submitted by Jennifer8804683 on 11/26/2019
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Photo submitted by Gremlingolfer on 05/15/2019
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Photo submitted by Gremlingolfer on 05/15/2019
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Photo submitted by xkyleclark3 on 06/13/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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The end of a perfect day Photo submitted by kenstrati on 01/15/2018
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
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Course was in excellent shape, greens were quick. Would not have booked if had known that carts were strictly cart path only. A few times had quite the walk to my ball. Plus side we weren’t paired up and never had to wait, likely because others knew about the cart rules.
The course was in awesome shape, the course was practically vacant which was awesome.. Greens a little slow.
Great Day !
We really enjoyed our day on the course. Course was in good shape and hope to play again.
Nice layout, fair condition
Good design, very little amenities. 1/2 completed projects surrounding course. Played with 3 locals they paid 1/4 what i did. Overseed did not take uniformly so shaggy in places, I did not get many bad lies. Lots of blind shots, helpful to play with someone that knows course. Greens were decent.
A lot of machinery working
Course is due to be closed for overseeding next week so they are modifying many traps. Pace was slow. In 4 hours we were only able to play 15 holes before we ran out of light.
Don't waste your money!
This course is not worth the money. There were no rangers on the course and the pace was terrible. There was a group that was 2 groups ahead. They were hitting multiple balls, not playing ready golf and there was no body out there to correct the situation. I would not recommend this course to anyone - especially at the price. Further, a tee time of 1:39 on this day should have been a twilight time. With normal pace of play at 4:15, this time would not allow completion of the course by sundown - a ripoff!!
Great course, excellent condition
Considering the hot weather lately the course was in excellent condition. I had never played the course before but had watched some YouTube on it and was concerned that it might play tight to the houses. It did not, the landing areas were very wide and I had my low round of the trip here. Great course.
First time playing and will be back
I really enjoyed playing the course. Clearly time of year is excellent. Weather was outstanding and the course played very well. I am looking forward to playing the other courses at PGA West in the near future.
Must play!
Very fun course. Not for the faint of heart! Definitely target golf nearing the green as the bunkers surrounding them are wicked.
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