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3.5
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Conditions
2.8
Value
4.0
Layout
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Friendliness
4.3
Pace
3.3
Amenities
3.6
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About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Traditional
Par 71
Length 7013 yards
Slope 129
Rating 72.9

Editor's Note: Course closed for business in 2015.

Course Details

Year Built 1957
Golf Season Year round

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
Caddies No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Golf Simulator No
Teaching Pro Yes
Indoor Practice No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No

Food & Beverage

Snacks
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Reviews

3.5
342 Reviews (342)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 44
Patio Dining 44
Brunch 20
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 77
Elevation Changes 47
Water Hazards 47
This course/club is great for:
Locals 68
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 61
Advanced Golfers 35
This Course's Location is:
Convenient to the City 87
Near the Airport 52
Worth the Drive 38

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Reviews 18
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Consistently inconsistent

I have played Vistal a number of times... A year or so ago, I swore I would never go back and then a playing partner told me it was in good shape, so I played it again. At that time it was in reasonable shape so I went back this weekend. The course looked like nobody had done maintenance on it for weeks. Greens were nasty and the fairways rival the old days when it was Thunderbird (in its decline).
It's too bad that for whatever reasons Vistal won't invest in keeping the course in shape. It is unlikely I am going to gamble on this course again. RIP.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap Don't know
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Mountain views

Course was beautiful. Well manicured. Better than I expected. Greens were a challenge. Staff and facility couldn't have been better. Can't wait to come back.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Good view with low winter rates

I liked this course due the amount of challenging holes with four sets of tees to satisfy any skill level.
One of the harder courses that I have played to keep your head down with all the great views of South Mountain and the valley below. The rates we paid for this time of year along with course condition (very average) makes it good solid deal to get out with your friends and have a good time golfing and having a few beers and some decent food at the snack bar. I will be back soon.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 21
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

This course is in bad shape, barely a golf course.

I haven't played this course in some time and now I remember why. It's worse than it was the last time I played. Greens are in bad shape, sand traps are non-existent, tee boxes are a mess like they haven't had attention in days, broken tees and debris everywhere. I'm surprised they charge as much as they do. I don't think I'll ever play here again. Sad, this used to be a nice golf course, removal of fairway sand traps, greens are in bad shape and extreme lack of maintenance has ruined the course, almost like it is on purpose, like lets see how many people will still pay to play here if we do nothing.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 12
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Nice Course for price

Nice course and worth the price. Staff is friendly.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 18
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Good course but needs some improvements

The course is an excellent layout but needs to be maintained better. It could be a real gem with a little more care. Could also use divot repair bottles on the carts, more markings for distance or GPS units on the carts. Very friendly staff and course facilities (like washrooms, water). I will be back!!

Conditions Fair
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Previously Played

Disappointing at best

I'm sure the reason the course is in such poor condition is the same as for foothills and club west; It costs way too much to water the southmountain courses!! With that as a basis for establishing understanding for my next comment- "Shut it down in the winter time instead of duping people into thinking they are going to play golf" This course has the potential for greatness but putting out such a low quality product is just plain wrong!

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
2.0
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Terrible Conditions for the Winter time

The cousre was not in great shape. The fairways appeared to be spray painted and the greens were in horrible shape. The first hole had a lot of deep dirt patches.

The pace of play was also exteremly long. Finished in just over 5 hours.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Walked

Vistal review

The course was in average to good condition. Tee boxes and fairways were good ,but the greens ,not so good. They need work. They were flat and green but the grass is very thin. This course offers some very challenging holes. It also has many and varied "looks" to it.The staff is very friendly and accommodating.The "Blue Pig" restaurant has some very good "course" food.
Overall;A very nice place to play .A great place for the money!!

Conditions Average
Value Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Poor Condition

The tee boxes were in poor condition. The greens were hard a bumpy. Fairway were rough. No sand on carts to replace divots. Bunkers are very deep with little sand in them. Food very expensive

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great deal!!!

Best course in the valley for the money ($39 for late morning tee time), especially during this time of the year, when even mediocre tracks are commanding $75+. Going back soon.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Previously Played

A true Dichotomy - Such wasted potential

Visual is such a dichotomy. The layout and views are outstanding as was the staff friendliness. The amenities are very good: attendants to unload/load your bags and wash clubs at end of the round, nice practice facility, convenient snack bar with good variety, very frequent and well stocked beverage cart service. Now for the opposite side of things. The course condition is TERRIBLE. the greens are so thin on grass. They needed to use 3-4 times more grass seed at overseed time. The tee boxes are butchered up with divots and there are no sand/seed containers on the the tee boxes so the golfers can help with repairs. For a course that only over seeds tees and greens, you would expect them to be excellent and they are just the opposite. The fairways are in fair condition at best. Since they are not over seeded, I had pretty low expectations and got about what I expected. Again there are lots and lots of divots because there are no seed bottles on the carts.
If you want a really inexpensive course with great views and could care less about course condition, then Vistal is okay. If you are a serious golfer who wants nice conditions and is willing to pay a few bucks extra, try somewhere else. Personally, I wish they would raise green fees $5-10 and put every penny of it back into course maintenance. Vistal could be such a wonderful course.
Tip to those who play: wet a towel before you start, because you can't find a ball washer on the entire course!

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 24
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Change the name

The course looks nice from the street but then you find out that they don't overseed for the winter season. The fairways were dormant bermuda grass that they spray with a green dye. They should call it Painted Fairways.

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Negative reviews are a bit too negative

Yes, it's not overseeded and yes the fairways are painted. But it's totally playable, the greens are in pretty decent shape, and the views of South Mountain and the city are phenomenal. It's a fun layout and a good value for Feb in the valley.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

What happened?

This course has such potential and used to be a great course when it was Thunderbird GC. The fairways and greens were very spotty and a fair putt was never possible as the ball bounced with every roll. I don't plan on coming back unless the rates come down and the ridiculous prices of food come down as well. Maybe decrease these prices and hire a greens keeper to bring it back the way it once was. The pace of play was great but there was nothing to look forward to

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Had a great time!

The course has a terrific layout with an amazingly friendly staff. My guests and I had a wonderful time as the course is challenging yet playable.

The conditions of the greens are poor and most fairways and transition areas are below fair. The weather has been mild so there should be little excuse for better turf/landscape conditions.

Conditions Fair
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Michael Groothoff

Needs to over seed, and cut the fairways a little shorter

Conditions Fair
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Course

Was a little rough in places but most of it is good

Conditions Average
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Fair value

The greens were painted sand the fairways were painted dead grass. But the price made it a good value, if you simply want to hit your ball and play a round of golf.

Conditions Poor
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 15
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Average weather
Used cart

great value

I always play this course it is very challenging with

nice views of the mountains and also the city, it is

one of the best values in phoenix

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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