PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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4.5
1164 Reviews (1164)
5 Stars
735
4 Stars
268
3 Stars
95
2 Stars
40
1 Stars
26
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.6
90.5%
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1027 out of 1164 reviews
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4.5
27 Reviews (27)
5 Stars
19
4 Stars
6
3 Stars
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1
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.3
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.5
92.6%
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25 out of 27 reviews
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4.5
113 Reviews (113)
5 Stars
74
4 Stars
25
3 Stars
8
2 Stars
5
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.5
90.3%
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102 out of 113 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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Reviews

4.5
1164 Reviews (1164)

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Reviews 4
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Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing

Really slow round … great greens

Course is in great shape; greens were fantastic and quick! Pace of play … bring a book. Make sure to book your time NO LATER than 1:30/1:45 if you want to finish in the daylight. Course is booked (which is good), but the play is slow (course wants a 4.5 hour round)… it was a 5 hour 10 min round on Monday.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 21
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Such SLOW Pace

Sadly the pace of play ruined what should have been a quality experience at one of my favourite courses in the area. Front side took 2 1/2 hours to play! Waiting on every tee box. Back 9 slightly better at 2:15 hrs. Past times playing here marshalls did a much better job with pace of play.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 57
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Wet weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 29
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

a MUST play course

excellent challenge for those who aspire to play at a higher level

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Windy weather

Stadium

How can you go wrong. Great day no problem finishing either!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

In great condition very challenging

The staff was great. The course was terrific. The pace of play was just a little slow not bad. I had a great time.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Needs gps and pin placement awareness

We love some of the other PGA west courses we’ve played, such as the Nicholas, Norman and Mountain course, but were a little disappointed in the Stadium course. Why are there no GPS systems in the cart? Why was there no explanation on pin placement so you know if it’s in front middle or back of green? All flags were white and we saw nothing on the scorecard indicating anything about pin placement. They were definitely not all middle, all front, or all back. One time at the Nicholas course, they told us that it was going to be front, then middle then back throughout the course. We got no such instruction from the starter on this day. Fortunately, we got a discounted price because we played later in the day, but for the price they charge for playing earlier, you should definitely have GPS in your carts and pin placement information available.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

PGA WEST PETE DYE STADIUM COURSE

Fortunately, using my Golf Pass membership, the price I paid was reasonable. Otherwise, I didn’t feel the course was worth it. Relatively wide open, ver hilly, fair shape., slow pace of play. I was disappointed that the driving range was closed. I find it very helpful when you can practice before playing. The other golfers I played with were shocked when I told them what I paid. I was lucky enough to get a “ hot deal”, so price I paid was much less than my playing partners. Overall, I would not play it again, since there are many more courses that are more suitable to my game.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 21
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Too challenging for the average and senior golfers

No GPS yardage mapping units in the electric carts as most such other high-end coursed provide. The hole flags on the greens were not color coded. No maps of holes on score card. There were several blind approach shots to the greens that were heavily bunkered and surrounded by sand moats. As such, for a new player on this course it was often like trying to pin the tail on the donkey blindfolded. Overall not a good experience.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Challenging

I'm a 12 and if you get in the traps, which are everywhere prepare to add some strokes. It is also severely sloped so adjusting is so important. Greens are true fairways were nice, it's just challenging. I loved it but wouldn't pay full price to play there.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

Great

Been here 4 times before, and this is by far the best conditions and staff experience I have ever had. Keep up the good work.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

A Good Day

Fantastic golf experience

The price is significantly higher then a few years ago.

Challenging design.

Punishing for most miss shots

You feel an accomplishment for good shots in some intimidating holes

Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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