PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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4.5
1169 Reviews (1169)
5 Stars
738
4 Stars
270
3 Stars
95
2 Stars
40
1 Stars
26
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.5
90.3%
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1031 out of 1169 reviews
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4.5
29 Reviews (29)
5 Stars
20
4 Stars
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1
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1
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.4
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.5
89.7%
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26 out of 29 reviews
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4.5
104 Reviews (104)
5 Stars
67
4 Stars
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3 Stars
7
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Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.6
89.4%
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93 out of 104 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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Reviews

4.5
1169 Reviews (1169)

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Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Alert on website

There should’ve been an alert warning “cart path only for overseeding”! Hard course for our skill level but not being able to drive to where our ball landed made the round very challenging!!!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
First Time Playing

Boring, bad condition

Not a great course, it is flat/boring, dated and ugly except for a few memorable holes. In bad shape compared to other premium courses in the area, with brown grass in many areas. I imagine the only reason they host the Q school here is, the giant range complex and the course is obviously very difficult from the tips, with lots of water. I would only play it again if someone else was paying.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

A great day at PGA West

Was lucky enough to snag a late-afternoon tee time on a hot deal. Super impressed with the course conditioning coming out of overseed. Teeboxes were mint, fairways were great, as were the greens despite being a bit on the slow slide. Friendly staff abound, too! Most important, pace was incredibly quick (~4hrs) and we managed to squeeze in 18 as the sun was setting.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 12
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played
Used cart

Fair

Played a few times seen course in better condition previously

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Used cart
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Great Day

Had a great day. Overalls conditions for the time of year were very good, and the layout of the course was great.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Used cart

Great Experience

Currently reading a history book on Q-School. Nice to experience what I found in the pages. Was pleased how well I played. It was that rare good day for my game. The staff at the course is excellent. Although I should quit while I'm ahead, I'll be back. Thanks for a grand experience.

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great Experience!

Everything about the our day of golf was just a great experience. Great company, staff super friendly, and the course was beautiful. The only reason I gave the course a 4 for conditioning was this time of year courses are transitioning. Still in very good shape. Can’t wait to watch the tournament this year and say I played that course!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 30
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

PGA West Stadium is a gem in the desert

This is my first time playing at PGA West and I was very impressed with the everything (Staff, Course conditions and layout, amenities.) The starter let me tee off a little early which allowed me to finish all 18 holes before dark. I will definitely come back and play Stadium course again soon.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 26
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

PGA WEST - Stadium

Great day on the course! The rough was just cut. The greens rolled true.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Call Before You Reserve

Played PGA West Nicolas on 9/16/23. Their website did not mention that the greens were sanded and the rough uncut. If you are a scratch golfer you will probably be fine. If you miss the fairway the rough is so thick even if you have a basic idea where it landed you can kiss the ball goodbye. I find it very dishonest not to advertise on their website the poor conditions of their course. They even warned us that the conditions were bad. Thanks for nothing. Traveled 3 hours to get there and prepaid for the round.

Do yourself a favor and make sure the course is properly prepared especially early season. If the greens are sandy and the rough has not be cut stay away if you like your balls.

Unhappy golfer.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Slow pace

Not sure if it was due to the rough length or overbooking or too many bad golfers but our round was 45 minutes behind the suggested pace and we walked off after 16 holes. Course for late summer was in okay shape, slow greens and dense rough, nice tee boxes and pretty decent fairways. Bunkers were pretty good.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 25
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great layout but ridiculous rough

The course is beautiful but the rough immediately off the fairways and greens is about 7 inches deep and thick. If you just barely miss a fairway our green and even if you have a real good idea where you landed you can kiss the ball good bye. I lost 7 balls on the first nine holes. You can’t find them unless you step on it and if you do it’s impossible too hit any decent shot out of it. T took all the enjoyment out of what should have been a fun round on a great layout.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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