PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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4.5
1156 Reviews (1156)
5 Stars
728
4 Stars
267
3 Stars
95
2 Stars
40
1 Stars
26
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.6
90.3%
Recommend this course
1019 out of 1156 reviews
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4.3
43 Reviews (43)
5 Stars
24
4 Stars
11
3 Stars
5
2 Stars
2
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.1
Value
4.2
Layout
4.6
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.5
83.7%
Recommend this course
36 out of 43 reviews
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4.5
153 Reviews (153)
5 Stars
101
4 Stars
33
3 Stars
10
2 Stars
7
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.2
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.5
89.5%
Recommend this course
137 out of 153 reviews
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About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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4.5
1156 Reviews (1156)

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5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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5.0
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Previously Played

Good Experience

Course was in magnificent condition … great Pete Dye layout with risk reward plays throughout. Plentiful sand in the hazards unlike the mountain and dunes courses which were hard pan and unplayable. Did have a strange encounter with a stadium ranger even though we were 5 mins ahead of pace… not a great experience with his monitoring approach. That all said - will be back to play again!

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Brutal

played Blue White combo on a very breezy day and i must say it was incredibly brutal experience. It just seemed like we played into the wind most holes! The redesigned greens also add a new element to course as i remember in the past the greens where fairly flat and easy to deal with.Next time hopefully no wind and i’m just doing whites and hopefully have some fun because not much fun was had yesterday. Course was in great condition 💪👍 Just played too long and tuff

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
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Reviews 5
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Course was awesome! Great condition overall however the greens are not receptive. Your ball will not hold in approach shots which was frustrating . My only complaint would be the greens not being receptive making the course even more difficult

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
First Time Playing

Greens Extremely Firm. Not receptive to shots.

The greens on the stadium course rolled very well, but were so firm it was almost impossible to keep the ball on the green.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap Don't know
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 24
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

IRONMAN

This is a terrific and challenging layout especially on a windy day, which is what I experienced. I definitely would love to play it again when the weather might be just a little bit easier.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 28
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Challenging

Nice challenging course. Unfortunately they just top dressed the greens and it was very windy. Good thing got a hot deal for $90 at 2:30. Would not pay the big bucks for this course, play a cheaper PGA course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

5 stars!

I thought everything was great. It was a little tough to get a ball to stop on the green, but the pro shop explained why, so it was expected. I will be back next Spring Break for sure.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 11
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Quicker pace of play, but top dressing of greens changed conditions

Played at 103p on a Wednesday (also played on Tuesday). Finished in 4:15 in windy conditions so pace of play was great. Greens had been lightly top dressed with sand, so went from stimping 10 prior day to probably 12 today which required adjustment. Same great service from all staff members especially our beverage cart lady - she was amazing. All said PGA W Stadium never disappoints.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 11
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great conditions, but 5hr+ round behind members’ days

Played at 1254p on Tuesday afternoon which we found out later was also men’s members day. So needless to say pace of play was an issue. Course was in great shape, and we had epic weather. Hard to give full marks for value at $275 per head but this is a marquee track and that is the market price. Great service from all departments too.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

HARD!

beautifully maintained, perfect staff but very, very difficult.

Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great course in a beautiful setting

First time playing a PGA West course and it lived up to my expectations. Beautiful layout and great conditions. Only downside was the bar staff, especially the manager. We wanted to sit down at the bar for lunch and were told that we had to put our name on the list and wait to be seated. When we spoke with the hostess, she said it was open seating and we could have a seat. All in all, a great experience.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 35
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

SLOW

5 hour round, no pin sheet, greens hard as a rock.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 27
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
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