PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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4.5
1164 Reviews (1164)
5 Stars
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95
2 Stars
40
1 Stars
26
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.6
90.5%
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4.5
27 Reviews (27)
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Conditions
4.3
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.5
92.6%
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25 out of 27 reviews
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4.5
113 Reviews (113)
5 Stars
74
4 Stars
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3 Stars
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Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
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4.5
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About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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4.5
1164 Reviews (1164)

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Must Play

Great course, great layout and challenging.

Slower than usual playing pace.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
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Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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carllee

Very nice course, we are playing the date close to PGA tour, the maintenance of the course is very nice. Course layout is friendly for both pros and newbies, worth of your money for sure

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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5.0
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First Rate

Greens were a bit marked up, but otherwise a great experience,

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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5.0
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Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
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4.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 1
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5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Poor
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Beginner
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 4
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Plays A few times a week
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5.0
Previously Played

Incredibly fun challenge

This course is not for the faint of heart, but what an experience. Playing it weeks before the actual PGA event and seeing the stadium seating made for a wonderfully memory. This is not an easy layout and as a golf buddy of mine said” this is a real big boy course.” Bring extra golf balls and have a blast.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 7
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 24
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing

The best course I have ever played.

Everything was perfect, course conditions, weather, pace of play, stuff...

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 12
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
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Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 40
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

You should play it

While it's tough, it's not as difficult as I thought coming into the round. That said, we played the blue tees, not the black (tips). Course was in good shape with the PGA Tour event coming in about a month. Greens were a little inconsistent and not as quick as I thought they'd be, but still will challenge you. Have to be in the right spot. If you are striking it well, you can post a good round here. If you're a little bit off, it will frustrate you and beat you up. Making birdie at Alcatraz with the grandstands surrounding the green will be a nice memory. It will cost a good amount to play here. I'd say it's worth no more than $200 unless it's in outstanding condition. You pay for the name and the resort more than anything.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 9
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

A 5:05 hour round is unacceptable. Finished the first nine in 2: 45 on track for 51/2 hours for the round! Playing the last 2 holes in the dark when starting at noon is poor. Not worth the cost of playing. Cancelled rounds at the Tournament and Greg Norman as a result since both were also at noon.

Conditions Excellent
Value Poor
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
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