PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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4.6
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Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.6
92.4%
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4.7
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4.6
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4.2
Layout
4.9
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4.7
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4.6
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Course Highlights
This iconic stadium course delivers a bucket-list layout with stunning mountain views, challenging water hazards, and conditions that consistently impress recent golfers. Welcoming staff from bag drop to pro shop make every visitor feel genuinely excited to play.

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Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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PGA WEST - Pete Dye Stadium Course
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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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Reviews

4.6
1227 Reviews (1227)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 42
Patio Dining 28
19th Hole Scenic Views 26
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 70
Water Hazards 67
Forced Carries 49
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 61
A Bucket list/Top 100 Pick 52
A Weekend Splurge 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 42
At a Resort 34
Convenient to the City 18

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Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
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Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
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5.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

First Class Experience

A spectacular complex with friendly staff and great amenities. Fortunately played this course on a day with no wind. Very challenging and definitely not for high handicap golfers. Most important is to play the appropriate tee; this is not a course to let your ego get the best of you. Lots of fun and would definitely play again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1001
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 1 Contributor
California Advisor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Stadium

Rode the Blues (6739/73.1/140) twilight in slightly less than 4.5H... for 15 holes? Finally found a way to shoot in the 70's from the Blues @ Stadium, have it get too dark to play after 15 holes. CPO and a slow group in front on a packed course made for a snails POP. Matched up with Dwayne, Mike and A.J., very nice group to play with. The weather was sunny, calm and around 95.

The over seeded tees were mostly flat and lush.

The over seeded fairways were lush and excellent to play from.

The Bermuda primary rough was mostly dormant. Still thick even though mowed down low. It was usually nice to play out of.

The plentiful sand traps were very well maintained with good quality sand.

The over seeded greens putted medium slow speed and were firm and somewhat bumpy coming out of over seeding. Definitely weeks behind the Nicklaus greens.

This was one of the toughest courses in the U.S. when it opened in the 1980's. More than usual amounts of water plus huge, deep sand traps are tough obstacles. Throw in the typical Pete Dye moguls and you have a layout that can beat up even PGA Tour players. #6 was playing 240 to a back pin with at least a 200 yard carry over water today from the blues. Just for giggles, one of my playing partners scoped the Blacks. 267 over water is a LONG par 3. However, always enjoy this layout,

Excellent customer service as usual here. Cart gal around 4-5 times. Numerous water stations on the course. Good GPS on the carts. Nice all grass range that was very busy. Definitely recommended.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Enjoyed the round

Course was in good shape, greens were faster than other courses I played during the week. Greens ran true. Everything was in great shape. Was cart path only, so had to do a fair bit of walking.

Will definitely come back

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 163
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 100 Contributor
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

My favorite course in the valley

I love this place. Course was just out of overseeing, so fairways and greens were longer than normal, but shot values were still the same. Just a challenging course, with lots of interesting holes. Beware of the water.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1001
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Top 1 Contributor
California Advisor
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Stadium

Rode the Blues (6739/73.1/140) twilight in slightly less than 3H using Forelinx. The weather was overcast, breezy and around 90.

Bad shots can be really penalized on this Pete Dye layout. Miss the fairway or green and your recovery shot will almost assuredly be a side hill lie, often an extreme side hill lie. Even relatively good shots barely offline can quickly result in a double or worse. More than usual water and avoiding the sand here is a higher priority than almost any other course I have played.

The Bermuda tees were mostly flat with adequate coverage. Well maintained, only some par 3's needed divot attention.

The Bermuda fairways were mostly lush with most divots already repaired.

The Bermuda rough was lush and still thick even though mowed down low. Actually, nice to play out of at this level.

The plentiful sand traps were very well maintained with good quality sand. Many of the traps here the average golfer needs to steer clear of to avoid big numbers.

The Bermuda greens putted medium speed and were firm and somewhat bumpy. typical for late summer before over seeding. nice.

The customer service is always excellent here. Drink cart around once then closes early during twilight. Numerous water stations on the course. Good GPS on the carts. Nice all grass range that closed at 1pm today. Very challenging layout featuring moguls and many large bunkers that make for challenging sight lines that is in decent late summer condition. Definitely recommended.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

WORST CONDITIONS EVER

This course should not even be open for play until they can sort out their play-ability issues. The fairways are choppy with multiple bare spots throughout every fairway, greens are not much better. The entire course is basically Ground Under Repair right now. Wait for them to fix before you book. I would not play it for free.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Poor conditions

I knew the course was in rough shape but it was worse than I expected. Very choppy fairways and greens.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Horrible condition

Golf course was in horrible shape. Tees, greens and fairways were all in very bad condition. I felt like I was playing in a cow pasture. Unbelievable for PGA stadium course not even worth 10 dollars. Very disappointed

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
1.0
First Time Playing

Muni courses are better

This is a destination course and the expectations are high. To say that every cheap, run-down muni course I’ve ever played was a more enjoyable experience would not be an understatement. We booked the tee time three weeks ago. When we checked in, we were given a $10 discount and told the course conditions were a bit “bumpy.” Um, that was the understatement of the century. There was more sand and mud in the fairways than grass and about half of the greens had large sections that were under repair. I had 3-4 birdie putts with a line that went through mud and sand. Listen, sometimes even the best courses have issues with their terrain...I get that. But to not reach out to people ahead of time and warn them of the conditions (thereby giving them a chance to make alternate arrangements)? Absolutely unacceptable for a course of this significance. We also did not see a marshall the entire time, and the water in the on-course coolers was hot (not ideal for 110 degree temps). If you’re planning on trying to play here in summer of 2019, HIGHLY recommend you look at some of the other great courses in the area. This place is a disaster right now.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Poor
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
2.0
Previously Played

Great course. Terrible condition!

Played this course with high expectations. Pete Dye design is brutally hard. Fairways and greens are in terrible condition. Pace of play very slow giving way too much time to see all the trouble on the course. Wait to play when condition is better.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Horrible greens

Not sure it should be open until they get them repaired.

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 12
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing

Pretty much had course to ourselves. Fairways in excellent condition, staff were all very frriendly. Greens need some work.

I would recommend this course to only thos who have low handicaps only. Defibitely a championship course with very deep bunkers and hilly/narrow fairways. Mid to high handicappers will struggle here.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 73
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
California Advisor
Top 1000 Contributor
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

I admit I Am Biased

So my parents live on this course so I am a bit biased, but this is my favorite of the PGA West courses. I usually play either the back tees or one up from the back tees and I swear to God I swear like I have lost a fistfight every time I walk off the course. You have to hit every shot in the bag out here!

Only bad thing is sometimes you can get the tourist players out here who really don't belong playing such a tough course, but there are usually marshals cruising around all day.

If youre a single digit handicap planning a trip with the boys, this is a must play!

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 274
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 100 Contributor
Previously Played

A brutal test of golf

The Stadium course gets the respect of all golfers including professionals. When this course was built, persimmon woods and blade irons were the norm. No 460 drivers to easily hit your target. The Stadium today strikes fear and respect into players with modern equipment so imagine what it was like in the 1980s.

Flat lies are seldom. Miss your alley was and you will likely be in golf purgatory until you dig out back into play. The moons surface is between tee and green so club choice and a solid swing is paramount to get you around this track with some sanity remaining. It's a beautiful layout and a PGA West trophy. A must play

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 274
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 100 Contributor
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Stupid difficult

Just not good to people that can no hit it straight. This course is penalties so severe you are on the outside looking in

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 163
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 100 Contributor
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Every hole is different

Every hole is different and a challenge. You need to decided on a plan for each hole and then execute your plan. Any errant shots will be penalized, either by find water, or by making the next shot much harder. Just a really fun place to play. The finishing hole, 15-18 are fairly unique. The deep bunker left of 16 green is interesting, if your not in it. The sand most around 12 can be a challenge to negotiate too.

Worth experiencing, just don’t expect to have a great score.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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