PGA West Stadium Course: #17
PGA West Stadium Course #17: Welcome to “Alcatraz.” Home to Lee Trevino’s “Hole in One” – one of the most famous shots in golf history – which gave him the “Skins Game” victory over Jack Nicklaus, Gary Player and Raymond Floyd.
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4.5
1164 Reviews (1164)
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2 Stars
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1 Stars
26
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.0
Amenities
4.6
90.5%
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4.5
27 Reviews (27)
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Conditions
4.3
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.6
StaffFriendliness
4.5
92.6%
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4.5
113 Reviews (113)
5 Stars
74
4 Stars
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Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.1
Amenities
4.6
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4.5
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About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7300 yards
Slope 148
Rating 75.8

This is the monster of all monsters, the one that carries so many folktales of golfer terror with it that it should qualify as its own myth. The developers asked Pete Dye to make this "the toughest golf course in the world" and many argue he succeeded. Too well.

The Stadium Course at PGA WEST in La Quinta is one of those tracks that any self-respecting golf nut has to play once. Just to experience it. Just to say you did. Just to have stories of golf cruelty to tell at the office water cooler. There's a 19-foot deep bunker on the 16th hole. That's right. A 19-foot deep bunker. Your ball won't get out. Heck, you might not get out. From the back tees it measures 7,300 yards with an incredible 148-slope rating.

Every hole is a story waiting to be told. Either in success to be bragged about or failure to be even more bragged about. The PGA players moaned about this course so loud that it's no longer a regular stop on tour. Yet for average hackers, it's often a joy of punishment. Go in with the right attitude and it's liable to be one of your most unforgettable days of golf.

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Course Details

Year Built 1987
Fairways Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Pete Dye (1987) Alice Dye (1986)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes - included in green fees
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes - "PGA WEST Golf Academy"
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex, Discover Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Banquet Facilities

Available Sports

Fitness, Tennis

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4.5
1164 Reviews (1164)

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Perfect weather
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Paid for 18, got 10

So disappointed in my experience here. Paid through golf now for 18 holes. Got to starter for our 1:30pm time and he was like “no way you’re gonna get it all in”.

By hole 4 we were stacked up 3 groups at the tee box for the remainder of the round.

Called the marshal and he said that’s just the way it is.

Darkness came at 5:00 and we only got through 11. Marshal said speak to pro shop. At pro shop, they said that golfnow should have disclosed that there was no way to get 18 in. Of course when i spoke to GolfNow they said we sold you 18 holes and if you didn’t get it in, you need to speak to course.

Typical run around and finger pointing. Bottom line, I’m out $150 for half a round of golf.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 20
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

The Business of Golf

This review is primarily to highlight the poor staff interaction my group and I had recently at PGA West.

I originally booked a four-some and a two-some through Teeoff.com, and quickly amended (with confirmation) when one golfer had to withdraw about 2 weeks prior to the tee time. This left me with a foursome and a single. When I arrived, I informed the front desk of the situation and was immediately met with what I would describe as "uncalled-for abrasiveness." The women helping was adamant that PGA West did not receive confirmation of the tee time adjustment down to 5 golfers and that I would be charged. After I convinced her to look at my email confirmations, she asked me to email them to her. When I asked her what email address to send the confirmations, she pointed at her name tag (not helpful). I said "Ok so its aplass@ what domain?" She responds "take a guess" ... Ultimately, I was not told whether I would be charged for the 6th player, or not, and had to wait several days to check my CC statement. Luckily I was not charged as I followed all protocol.

The next interaction was with the starter (Frank?), who was not helpful, nor welcoming. We were somehow an inconvenience for him. Not uncommon out here, but for the price and the quality of the facility, it was not up to par. We played the next day at a Troon managed course and had the complete opposite experience.

There was also no drinking water provided on the course, whatsoever, and it was 115 degrees. No bottled water, no water jugs, no cart person, and snack bars were all closed, which one person in our group described as "negligence."

Each person in my group had the same takeaway and have left similar reviews on other sites. My hope here is that PGA West sees this and rectifies the situation. Other courses are doing things much better in terms of the experience with staff. A facility like this should be first class all the way.

The course itself is fun and challenging, but lacking in certain areas that you would expect of a "world class facility." I sincerely hope this changes.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Poor
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 20
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 20
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 20
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Expected Better from PGA WEST!

Felt rushed to tee-off early, no course maps, no GPS in Carts! Was told to download app - but registration needed??!! Try doing that while playing in 110 degree heat and not getting behind. Many blind trouble spots are hidden behind 'hills'. Finally used the GHIN gps and was more helpful. Green nice - but rough and bunkers impossible.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Very cool and unique layout

Had a great day at the stadium course, started off with breakfast at the bar food was excellent, great service, enjoyed the practice area before, on course staff were great. Great day can’t wait to get back!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 20
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Golf Trip

The course was amazing. Even in the heat the dairways were in great shape

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

Changes to the Stadium Course

Really ashamed that a lot of the trees were removed. I have played this course for a long time. I get that the thought was to get the course back to how it as originally with views of the mountains. I just wonder if Pete was really thinking the course would stay as it was when originally opened. Seems that someone wanted to make this course more friendly to golfers. Too bad, I doubt Pete ever thought about making this more friendly. Still really like the course. Just bring in more brush and trees like it once was.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Fantastic

Bucket list

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 16
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Stadium

The Course was in excellent condition given the recent excessive heat. The greens and fairways were in tremendous condition. One issue is the new rough is too thick around bunkers. I lost a ball just off the fairway around a bunker.

My favorite course. Awesome condition

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 28
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Must play

Awesome layout. Not as difficult as I expected it to be. Each hole presented its unique challenge and very picturesque. My first time playing here and with a 40 on the front and a 44 on a very windy (25-35 mph) back 9, I was quite pleased with that. I’m in my 60s, so I played from the whites which the starter said played at 6300 yards that day, so length was also a factor for me as I’m usually comfortable at 6100 yards. If you’re in the area, it’s well worth playing. Note: no GPS on the carts, so bring your devices.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
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