Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
809 Reviews (809)
5 Stars
346
4 Stars
293
3 Stars
109
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.6
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
87.0%
Recommend this course
677 out of 809 reviews
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4.6
69 Reviews (69)
5 Stars
46
4 Stars
17
3 Stars
5
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
1
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.4
Layout
4.5
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.9
92.8%
Recommend this course
64 out of 69 reviews
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4.3
102 Reviews (102)
5 Stars
65
4 Stars
22
3 Stars
6
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.6
85.3%
Recommend this course
87 out of 102 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham (North)
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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
809 Reviews (809)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Reviews 52
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played

Good track

Super wide fairways and little in the way of hazards other than bunkers make this an enjoyable experience and less stressful than some of the target courses. Greens and fairways in good shape. GPS on carts could speed up play even when it is cart path only. Some construction going on that challenges parking but little else. Not sure what the signature hole would be, not much in elevation changes . Overall fun golf course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing

Wide Fairways

If you want to regain confidence off of the TeeBox, this is the place to do it. Widest fairways I have ever seen! Well managed and a fun track.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 17
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Green is the color

The course was in immaculate shape as we learned the course had been over seeded a couple weeks prior. The greens were a bit on the slower side but they rolled true throughout the course. Prior to playing I read a lot of reviews complaining of slow play and despite the course being very busy we got around in four hours and 10 minutes. I’ll be back to play here the next time I’m in Scottsdale. An A+ day

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Over priced for the value

Club house under renovation and closed. Cart path only.

If the course notified golfers ahead of time of the renovation and cart path only, I would not have played there.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Roads and clubhouse under construction

The golf course was great. The only negative was the construction activity and lack of signage with instruction of where to check in, get a cart, etc. We understand when done this will be an improvement but don't let people wonder what to do upon arrival.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Another try - another disappointment!

This is the third time playing this course. It is very well maintained and it looks like a great course, however I have never played the entire 18 holes. Talking Sticks packs in WAY too many people into this course. First-it seems like there is always construction going on at the course-difficulty to find a parking space and then find the clubhouse. Two - again-didn't have enough carts, had to wait for a cart to be returned and we almost missed our tee time. Third, the pace of play was horrendous!! We waited on every hole and we only played 6 holes in 2 hours. Not worth the time, energy and pay. I'm done!

Conditions Good
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

It's ok.

Course is boring, no elevation, greens were fuzzy and slow. Bunkers were a crusty sand. (The club did get through it fine). Nothing that you envision for Arizona golf. Nothing spectacular. Will not be back.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 15
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Great course!

This was a great course to play. It was a very friendly resort course with wide fairways and big greens. The course was in excellent shape all the way around. There are not a whole lot of super unique holes, but it was a great course to play and for the price it’s definitely worth playing again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Slowest pace of play in AZ

Got stuck behind a father and son where the father would give his 8 year old a 10 minute speech then the kid would shank it. They finally let us play through then the next group was lining up puts like they were on tour. This place is notorious for a slow pace of play but this was ridiculous. I am done playing here.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

A Cut Above

Played 18 each morning I was in Scottsdale and came here after. Considerably firmer and faster than elsewhere, better turf, really beautiful place. Abundant wildlife, breezy pace, met great people out on the course. Definitely coming back and highly recommend the evening summer round, really not that hot and extra beautiful.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 126
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Missouri Advisor
Top 250 Contributor
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

A cool desert golf experience

The O’odham course is the first time I’ve ever played a course in the desert, and it was a much different experience than my usual parkland conditions. Straying off the course meant REALLY playing in the desert. Talking Stick is an interesting Coore/Crenshaw layout.

We got paired up with a couple who had retired to Phoenix, and they were extremely helpful in navigating the course as they said they were regulars at TS. The place was in excellent condition. The fairways are quite generous with plenty of room. But if you hit it far left or right, you were in the actual desert and that made for some difficult second shots. Greens were very good and putts rolled but many have lots of elevation changes to them.

The one hole that stood out as a little odd was No. 12. The design forces you to hit it to the right as there is a giant dirt-like “ditch” on the left and in the middle. Plus, it continues all the way up past the green.

Looking back, it was a fun day out in the desert and a cool experience. With so many options in the area, not sure I’d go back but I will highly recommend it to others.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 42
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Worth it - a good challenge

Course conditions were very nice, greens were solid and fairways in good shape. North vs. course; long vs. short to drive the fairway, narrow vs. wide fairways, sand traps in difficult vs. not so obtrusive placement. Both courses have good differences.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
First Time Playing

Awful pace of play.

The course itself was not bad. Big fairways, but not much room to miss fairways. Bunkers were fine, greens were not the worst. Good undulations on some. Pace of play was absolutely awful. Started as a 2 some paired with another 2 some who had to leave on 12 because we got so far behind. Ended up being a 5 hours round. No rangers in sight. Bev cart staff very unfriendly. We played at a discounted rate (over 50% off) that we would not pay again to play the course. Tons of wildlife (gophers) that seemed cool to start off on the first hole or two, but became disgusting after the first few holes because of how many there were. Had high hopes and was severely let down due to the pace of play alone.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 13
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Great Golf Facility

The Talking Stick golf facility is one of my all-time favorite place to play golf in the world. They have 2 great courses, both designed by the Crenshaw-Coore architectural company and I like both of them equally. The staff (pro-shop, starter etc) are very professional and welcoming. Since I was going to be in the Phoenix/Scottsdale area for 16 days over Christmas, I bought an All Inclusive Card which gets you discounted green fees, one free round and free breakfast/lunch with a paid round. So, I played 3 times (and wished I could play more!). The first time I played at this facility was in 2007 and I try to play every time I visit my family in Phoenix.

100% recommend this facility (either course).

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap Don't know
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
First Time Playing

6 hour round

Pace of play was atrocious. They overbooked the course like crazy. No ranger to be seen on the course, they clearly didn’t care.

Conditions Excellent
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
1.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Would Not Recommend

First and for most, only the range was open, but only for a short time. The putting green and chipping greens were closed. The starter was letting groups of 8 go off, slowing the entire course down. I recall seeing 4 groups waiting on a par 3, on the 3rd hole.

My tee time was for 1:00 pm (Before Twilight). After waiting on the third tee box for roughly 40 minutes just to tee off, the group behind us let us know that they had two groups of 8 behind them.

We finished the front nine in roughy 3.5 hours.

The beverage cart services, although having 2 carts in operation, took forever. We didn't see her until the 8th hole.

We decided to keep going and push it. The groups behind us gave up because it was getting late.

We ended up getting through 14 holes, not finishing our round.

That is uncalled for when we teed off at 1:00 pm.

Completely ridiculous.

It was my first time playing this course, and unfortunately will be my last.

I will not play this course again, and don't recommend this course.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Moderate
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