Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Reviewer Photos
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
No cart girl, slow play
The course is always in decent shape, even when it's dried up in the summer. And the layout is fun. But I've probably played here 7 times in the last 3 or for years and never had a round that was under 5 hours. it seems like they really pack you in on the weekends. And this time, we saw the cart girl once on the first green.. then never again. It's not the kind of setup where is easy to grab a snack at the turn either.
Talking sticks
A very nice golf facility, tough at 70 for the average club golfer, had a great time.
Not a good experience
I do have to say that the course itself was in pretty good condition. Wide fairways. Greens in decent shape. Staff was pretty friendly. The reason for the low rating is the pace of play. Ridiculous. Not sure why they have a Marshall driving around because he did nothing to help.
Tried it Once Mote
Played here about four years ago and I said I’d never waste my money again. Conditions far inferior to other courses in the area. I don’t like the layout. Pay a few bucks more and play We-Ko-Pa, Wildfire or Kierland.
Course was in amazing condition for this time of year
all greens were in excellent condition
This course from tee box to greens was in
excellent conditions.Depending on tee box it can be
easy or forcing you to keep focused
Women Friendly Course
We enjoyed this course with 2 couples. Very woman friendly course. Course was in great condition.
Not as picturesc as some but excellent value for the cost
Course in word - boring
All the holes seemed to be the same, nothing unique. Old style boring flat table top greens. Lots of stratigically placed sand traps but poor sand conditions. Place is overrun with gophers. At this price, they are catering to the convention goers at the hotel. Way overpriced for locals. Lots of nicer courses at half the price.
Decent Day
Course is in good shape with greens and sand very consistent. Good course to warm up with as it is very forgiving. Had a good day with the exception of a shot gun tournament inserted ahead of us part way through the round. Think this is something they should have made us aware of as it certainly slowed our progress. Pace of play had been very good to this point.
Good course under Arnold Palmer Management
I enjoyed the course. For some reason, play was slow. I think it had to do with some groups ahead of us who were tied in to some kind of money game, and pretty darned slow as a result. Our round took about 5&1/2 hours, whereas it should have taken no more than 4&1/2. The Marshall came up to us and suggested we were a bit behind, which we were on one hole. But usually we were waiting to hit; and sometimes for quite a while. The Marshall should have been moving the guys ahead of us. They were the slow players. I don't think this is common; just happened to be the case that day (a Saturday too).
Talking a Stick always a consistent winner
Both courses are always in good shape and are playable yet challenging. Great practice facilities as well. This complex is always a must play for us every year
Not too difficult
We played at 3:00 so the value was excellent. They got us out a little early so we were able to finish before sunset. Beautiful course
Well Kept Golf Course
Very enjoyable golf course. strategically placed bunkers that you need to be aware of. Lots of wildlife, Coyote, Roadrunner, Rattlesnake, gopher, hawk, and horses. It all added to a very enjoyable round. Employees were nice and beer cart made frequent stops.
Talking Stick Stay & Play Package
Arizona Golf Grind Package
Arizona Golf Grind Package