Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Reviewer Photos
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Nice course horrible pace of play.
Thé course is great. We probably fell on a bad day. First nine took almost 2.5. Hours to play. Horrible pace. Because of that we could not finish the 18th when the sun set. We never saw a Marshall on the course. It could have saved our round.
CART PATH ONLY!
Golfnow did not inform us that it was cart only. We were very disappointed when we were told at the course.
Why cart path only?
playing a golf course in the middle of a desert it's puzzling to me one of the carts have to stay on the path. Useless water and let the cards go to the ball. It just slows down play.
Great Resort Course
Great layout and appropriate level of challenge for a resort course. It was in great shape and enjoyable to play. Unfortunately it rained for much of the round; nevertheless after a 40 minute wait for rain we were able to finish our round. It was nice to get dry towels after nine. The staff were particularly helpful and friendly. Hope to play here again someday (when its sunny).
First day of golf in AZ
Price was too high for the conditions. Staff did a great job.
Great course and great value
The course was exceptionally well maintained. Greens were good and speed was average.
Pace of play was a little slow but tolerable.
Really enjoyed the north course and highly recommend it.
Very wet but still enjoyable
Played Talking Stick O'odham course on October 4, 2018 which was only two days after major rainfalls in the Phoenix area. Amazed that we were able to drive carts on the course! Several cart path detours due to standing water but the maintenance staff were working hard to remove the unexpected 'ponds'. Pace of play slowed a little by the wet conditions, but round still done in 4.75 hours.
It was our first time playing this course and we enjoyed the overall experience.
Top Notch
Total staff was professional and friendly. Wide open fairways give players with varied skill levels the opportunity to play shots to the green. Greens roll true and moderately fast. We will definitely be back next year.
Course conditiins
range and putting green closed, bunkers were hard as rock, course in bad shape due to rains...
THE RANGE AND PUTTING GREEN ARE CLOSED
Was very disappointed when I showed up 45 minutes early before my round on the day off and was looking forward to hitting some balls and putting prior to the round just to find out at the range and all practice facilities were closed! BULL
Wait a month before you play
this time of year I always call to check on the condition of the greens. Which I did the operator was somewhat confused about the timeline. (that should have tipped me off)
Well long story short she informed me wrong and Monday was the first day of off of aerification!
So the greens were awful
the kid in the shop tried his best to tell us they were going to be great but they weren't.
Probably won't ever play there again.
Talking stick
Summer in phoenix so great price but only greens in good shape; rest very dry and in bad shape
Always fun.
Challenging course, nice facilities.. greens rolled great.
Talking stick north
Good course. Had fun they had a beverage cart. Green grass and sand.
No cart girl, slow play
The course is always in decent shape, even when it's dried up in the summer. And the layout is fun. But I've probably played here 7 times in the last 3 or for years and never had a round that was under 5 hours. it seems like they really pack you in on the weekends. And this time, we saw the cart girl once on the first green.. then never again. It's not the kind of setup where is easy to grab a snack at the turn either.
Talking sticks
A very nice golf facility, tough at 70 for the average club golfer, had a great time.
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