Talking Stick Golf Club - Piipaash Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club, designed by Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, offers two uniquely different courses that each offer many options according to your playing skill. The Piipaash course (previously known as South at Talking Stick Golf Club), with its tree-lined fairways and raised greens defended at the sides offers a more straightforward style of play than the O'odham Course (formerly known as North at Talking Stick Golf Club).
A round of golf on the Piipaash Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club kicks off on a par-4 hole that measures 405 yards from the Black tees. Three long par-5 holes ensures that power golfers will get their kicks, with the fifth hole coming in at 516 yards, the 1fourth measuring 541 and the 16th playing to 548. The round of golf concludes on a relatively shorter par 4 that measures 323 yards.
After a round of golf on the North Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club, head back to the Wildhorse Grille for drinks and a bite to eat.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 71 | 6833 yards | 72.0 | 126 |
| Gold | 71 | 6430 yards | 69.7 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 71 | 6430 yards | 75.2 | 130 |
| Gold/Jade | 71 | 6040 yards | 67.4 | 117 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 71 | 6040 yards | 72.0 | 123 |
| Jade | 71 | 5331 yards | 64.9 | 108 |
| Jade (W) | 71 | 5331 yards | 69.1 | 117 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.0/126 | 405 | 419 | 228 | 327 | 471 | 386 | 516 | 476 | 177 | 3405 | 404 | 392 | 441 | 152 | 541 | 443 | 548 | 184 | 323 | 3428 | 6833 |
| Gold M: 69.7/120 W: 75.7/129 | 391 | 397 | 195 | 309 | 447 | 363 | 496 | 455 | 155 | 3208 | 384 | 358 | 417 | 136 | 521 | 417 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3222 | 6430 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.4/117 W: 73.8/125 | 391 | 351 | 125 | 309 | 402 | 363 | 496 | 388 | 155 | 2980 | 384 | 358 | 343 | 136 | 489 | 361 | 520 | 162 | 307 | 3060 | 6040 |
| Jade M: 64.9/108 W: 69.6/118 | 332 | 351 | 125 | 288 | 402 | 278 | 411 | 388 | 106 | 2681 | 273 | 276 | 343 | 102 | 489 | 361 | 400 | 118 | 288 | 2650 | 5331 |
| Handicap | 13 | 3 | 7 | 17 | 1 | 15 | 9 | 5 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 6 | 4 | 14 | 18 | 12 | |||
| Par | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 35 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 71 |
| Handicap (W) | 7 | 9 | 17 | 13 | 3 | 11 | 1 | 5 | 15 | 14 | 6 | 10 | 18 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 16 | 12 |
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Photo submitted by patd0329 on 04/01/2026
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Photo submitted by mikie253 on 01/31/2026
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 5 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Talking Stick (Piipaash), hole 12 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/24/2025
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Photo submitted by mason2289 on 01/07/2023
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Photo submitted by u040961220 on 10/07/2022
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Photo submitted by Bigjamaican on 12/13/2021
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Photo submitted by u454189909 on 08/23/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by Mkimmins on 06/14/2020
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Photo submitted by garthstewart on 05/03/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by LeeHandel on 03/16/2020
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Photo submitted by cbatman on 01/25/2020
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by Tarp77 on 11/10/2019
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Photo submitted by u314159545107 on 08/22/2019
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Eighteen green Photo submitted by Rosey461 on 06/16/2014
Terrible experience
It was an embarrassing day. I had a guest from Seattle in for 4 fans of golf and Talking Stick was 1 day of the 4.
The driving range was basically a dirt range without any grass. It was a hint of what was yet to come.
We were behind a corporate event, I guess doing a scramble. We caught this group on #11. From there, the day was ruined for our 4 some and everyone behind us, all trying to finish before dark.
This group, many dressed in jeans and tee shirts, showed no signs of experience or knowledge of basic golf skills.. walking through bunkers without raking, even club selection was a foreign thought. Over 20 minutes on a par 3. The groups in front of them were the same, so golf for my group and all behind me basically ground to a haul.
My complaint to a member of the staff was given a shrug and a it is what it is reaction.
Where are the Marshalls???????? We paid full price, and deserved a 4 hour 20 minute round of golf. The back nine was over 3 hours.
I was embarrassed to take my guest to your course.
Not worth the money
This course looks like and plays like a standard muni. Goose crap everywhere and average grass condition. Nothing special for paying that kind of money. Definitely better places for the price.
Pace of play was tough
The round was five hours…no ranger out keeping the large party of folks ahead moving along.
For the price and the bode of play I wouldn’t recommend
Great way to close out WMPO Week
Our last round before returning home and we enjoyed it tremendously. Great pace, conditions and weather. Only thing was the 19th closing at 6 so we couldn’t toast on how much we enjoyed the round! Highly recommend the course.
Get the Talking stick golf card
We payed $230 and the guys golfing with us bought the Talking Stick Golf Card for $69 and two plAyers can use it and they payed $99 on a Friday. Course was ok, played in 4 hours.
GolfNow and Talking Stick Ripped Us Off!!!
We had a tee time on 2/5/21 at 846am. We had travel issues with a couple players and called Talking Stick at 804am. We were transferred to the head pro/assistant pro as the Staff worker didn’t have authority so we were transferred to explain the situation. The agreed to waive the “No Show Fee” and grant an exception, very gracious at the time. HOWEVER, at 4pm, GolfNow emailed a notice saying the course had authorized the Fee $772 for 3 players! This was extremely disappointing on both GolfNow and the course as the director of golf was not communicated our prior conversation that morning and the exception they had agreed to earlier that morning! I have emailed the Director of Golf at Talking Stick AND GolfNow. Neither have replied and the charge is on my account. My next step if this is not corrected by next week will be to report both GolfNow and Talking Stick to the BBB and dispute the GolfNow charges on my credit card. While we appreciated the intent of Talking Stick to accommodate based on the AM conversation Shame on you both for the poor communication and not following thru. I also spoke to Austin later that day in the Golf Shop after this all transpired to get direct email of the director of Golf who has still not responded to my email to correct the situation. See the screenshots below. Still no return email OR phone call from Golf Now or Talking Stick and likely have to file a dispute with my credit card or take this to the BBB. Ugh
Save your money
Sorry guys but this course is not worth the ticket price.
Bland golf course, when there are so many other choices, the price for this course is wrong
Great course for the cost
Fairways and bunkers well kept
Greens rolled true and were in great shape
Cozy
At 11 we counted 4 groups on the box. A marshal would me nice. I never mind them saying - catch up or move up .
200$ per person in perfect weather perfect course is very worth it .
But i wouldn’t play for free when the management on the course can’t help out .
- and I know I’m old because we still finished in 4 hours.
Just a fluke ..
Will be back!
It was my second time in Scottsdale, and first time playing this course. My wife and I really enjoyed it. Challenging but fair. The course slowed down on a few holes, but overall pace of play was good. We got a “hot deal” so the value was definitely there. We’ll be back!
Very slow play
Unable to play 18 holes that were paid for. Waiting 5 to 10 minutes between shots is unacceptable.
Only finished 12 hole before it started getting dark. 2:26pm tee time for 4
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