PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1389 Reviews (1389)
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4 Stars
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3 Stars
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2 Stars
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1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.3
93.8%
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4.6
29 Reviews (29)
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.2
Amenities
4.1
StaffFriendliness
4.8
89.7%
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4.7
103 Reviews (103)
5 Stars
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Conditions
4.9
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.8
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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4.6
1389 Reviews (1389)

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Reviews 28
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

A pleasant day

We had an enjoyable round with friends. Course conditions were fine except for the bunkers. They sorely need attention.

The red forward tees were quite long in some cases - 509 par 5! - but jumior tees too short.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

PGA West Norman Course

No real memorable holes. Pace of play a little slow. Marshal seemed to ignore slower groups ahead of us. Course conditions just average.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 15
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 10
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Nice course but slow twilight play

Given that the temp was 103 when we started at 3:45 pm getting 9 holes in was probably as much as we could expect, but was hoping to for more.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

A thrill

Beautiful course, challengions. It was so hot but we enjoyed

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 23
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Previously Played

Slow!!! 5 hour round

Me and my buddy got paired with two nice guys. Unfortunately they were the last two of three groups playing a Scramble and the groups in front were very slow. The course assistant came by with about 5 holes to go and didn't say a word to any of the groups to speed up play. We paid 199 USD to play in five hours with the last hole in almost complete darkness. For a PGA course the standard was very low.

Also they had a wedding setting-up so were not serving food through the kitchen. Instead they had a young guy at a BBQ that served us raw burgers. Didn't eat them.. really a bad experience and not something you would expect for that amount of money from a course with that name.

The course was in decent shape but green were very slow. Play at your own risk and only if you have the time.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

PGA West never disappoints!!

By far the best track we have played in Palm Desert. Excellent conditions, tricky / fast greens and terrific layout. Most fairways are saddled such that anything to the left or right side typically fall towards the fairway. We took a hot deal ($122), but had to play at 12:45 (really hot)…definitely worth it!

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Fun course

Course in excellent condition, challenging due to the number of water hazards and fairways/ greens that drain towards the water. Fun course.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Good experience in Pga west Norman

Course in great shape, pace very good

Really appreciate

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Norman Course better by the day

The course is getting better by the day after overseeding and aeration.

A joy to play

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 12
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Great

No complaints everything was as it should be a special mention to Linda in pro shop her service and helpfulness was second to none.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

FUZZY TEES

Greens were sandy, which made them slowish, but not too bad overall. My main complaint was conditions of the TEE BOX on some holes, it was impossible to tee low and hit an iron as the grass was 1.5-2" high (linger than the fairway)! Was only in a couple bunkers, and they were inconsistent and hard packed. Would have been disappointed at full rate, but for the price a got - it was a good day.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great experience!

The only thing I didn’t like about the clubhouse was that the restaurant was not open in the morning. We couldn’t get any drinks and snacks prior to starting the early morning round. The course itself and the staff were amazing!!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
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