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PGA WEST Greg Norman Course

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PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
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4.6
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About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Satellite Layout
Tees
Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Black 72 7156 yards 75.1 139
Black (W) 72 7156 yards 81.9 145
Blue 72 6671 yards 72.8 133
Blue (W) 72 6671 yards 79.2 137
Blue/White 72 6427 yards 71.5 128
Blue/White (W) 72 6427 yards 77.7 134
White 72 6227 yards 70.6 126
White (W) 72 6227 yards 76.6 131
Gold 72 5751 yards 68.4 120
Gold (W) 72 5751 yards 73.4 126
Gold/Red 72 5523 yards 67.0 115
Gold/Red (W) 72 5523 yards 72.4 123
Red 72 5297 yards 65.6 112
Red (W) 72 5297 yards 71.4 120
Silver 72 3978 yards 59.7 98
Silver (W) 72 3978 yards 63.1 108
Track Rounds
Scorecard
Scorecard for Greg Norman
Metrics:
Hole 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Out 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 In Total
Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 409 526 477 140 380 481 181 617 359 3570 415 337 566 216 443 431 537 180 461 3586 7156
Black/blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 409 526 449 140 380 450 144 591 359 3448 415 337 566 192 415 406 537 161 440 3469 6917
Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 379 499 449 137 349 450 144 591 339 3337 384 302 521 192 415 406 513 161 440 3334 6671
White/Blue M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 352 499 419 137 349 420 144 561 339 3220 384 302 521 171 386 383 513 142 405 3207 6427
White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 352 470 419 111 317 420 133 561 317 3100 370 272 507 171 386 383 491 142 405 3127 6227
White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 329 470 384 111 317 395 133 531 317 2987 331 272 507 155 351 358 491 126 374 2965 5952
Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 329 440 384 105 289 395 96 531 292 2861 331 262 457 155 351 358 476 126 374 2890 5751
Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 329 440 350 105 289 370 96 509 292 2780 331 262 425 129 351 335 442 126 342 2743 5523
Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 298 407 350 94 264 370 84 509 283 2659 305 221 425 129 337 335 442 102 342 2638 5297
Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 298 407 262 94 264 266 84 376 283 2334 224 221 425 129 248 247 442 102 256 2294 4628
Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 216 305 262 86 198 266 73 376 212 1994 224 170 313 107 248 247 324 95 256 1984 3978
Handicap 9 13 3 17 11 1 15 5 7 8 18 16 2 10 12 6 14 4
Par 4 5 4 3 4 4 3 5 4 36 4 4 5 3 4 4 5 3 4 36 72
Handicap (W) 10 3 6 17 12 1 15 4 8 11 18 9 14 13 2 5 16 7

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.5
1360 Reviews (1360)

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u314161209932
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Great course

Great course design and some interesting holes, but pace of play was terrible. Played on a Monday and took 5hours and 40 minutes. No help from the player assistant, which we saw only once during the round.

Difficulty Extremely Challenging
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toddmhawkins
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Tough course but conditions were lacking.

Surprisingly having to write just an OK review of the famous Stadium course. More times than I care to count I found myself hitting off of hard pan or less than optimal fairway conditions. Couple of tee boxes also less than ideal conditions. Greens were hard as a rock and great high lofted shots into the greens landing a foot from the pins were rewarded with balls rolling 40-50ft past the pins. Greens were actually worse over at Norman but I think this is just a PGA West thing with all their courses to have unforgiving greens.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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u010141929
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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kensong1983
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

Great Course and Excellent condition

The course was in great shape with excellent condition, we had good pace of play for weekend afternoon tee-time. Green was fast enough so I lost so many stroke on the green. If some one ask me about here then I can recommend to others.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
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GMof5
Played On
Reviews 21
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

Excellent Conditions

Course was in excellent conditions. Greens were fast. Pace of play was good. Staff was very friendly and helpful Love the layout

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Hjk5mC7hoOSNYPznuvDq
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Halo62
Played On
Reviews 83
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 500 Contributor
Previously Played

Wheels!

Course is in very good condition. Staff is friendly and helpful.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
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aaarmada
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap Don't know
Skill Beginner
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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u000005473600
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Well maintained. Excellent for mid level golfer.

Slope rating accurate.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
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u000001313085
Played On
Reviews 21
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

Desert Golf

Excellent layout and conditions with fast greens

Played on a very windy day but still very enjoyable

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Response from on 05/23/2025:
Thank you for the wonderful five-star review! It’s fantastic to hear you had a great experience, and we can’t wait to welcome you back for another memorable round.
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9EV8ko38YUhFWfWfqaI5
Played On
Reviews 6
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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kvQtCPLJtYFjRZIuMrRF
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Mark7791335
Played On
Reviews 5
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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u000002687807
Played On
Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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u000001018652
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played

Greens not great

The course was in great shape, we had good pace of play for early Friday afternoon tee-time. Our biggest issue were the greens, which didn't hold shots and were exceedingly fast--a lot more so than normal. At end of round the cart-house/club cleaner guy told us they have been letting greens go as getting ready to punch them.

Look forward to playing when greens are a bit more receptive.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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u6354458
Played On
Reviews 15
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Lightning speed

Wow,

What a treat to play this course. Challenging and also has its rewards. Greens are fantastic at 11 and wide fairways.

Fun day at PGA Norman...will play again and made the A list.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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u000001313085
Played On
Reviews 21
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Desert golf

Great conditions

Fast greens with a lot of bunkers

Extremely windy day but still enjoyable

Amenities were excellent

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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u00000970972
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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u314159713946
Played On
Reviews 5
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
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u7394397
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Nice Desert style course.

Excellent course very playable and fair. However many Bunkers .

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Response from on 04/23/2025:
Thanks for the five-star rating. We’re thrilled you enjoyed your visit and appreciate your support. Our team looks forward to delivering the same level of excellence next time.
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