PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)
5 Stars
874
4 Stars
373
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
93.0%
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1277 out of 1453 reviews
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4.8
66 Reviews (66)
5 Stars
51
4 Stars
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3 Stars
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0
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0
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.5
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.6
97.0%
Recommend this course
64 out of 66 reviews
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4.7
93 Reviews (93)
5 Stars
70
4 Stars
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3 Stars
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Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
94.6%
Recommend this course
88 out of 93 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Played On
Reviews 33
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Spectacular

Amazing course. We played in 4.5 hours but waited on every hole. Interesting flow.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 10
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 12
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Nice course. Staff could be more accommodating for the cost

Nice course conditions

Mostly tight fairways with desert surrounding

Starter staff not accommodating for the cost

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Excellent, minus club rental experience

Second time at the PGA west complex but first at this course. A very different clubhouse experience compared to the Nicklaus course. Less grand and polished feeling, felt less premium for the high price tag. The course however was magnificent, my first time on a desert style course and incredibly enjoyable all round.

With that being said there was a frustrating club rental experience having called the club the day before to speak to the rental manager, who ensured me there would be plenty of stiff shaft club availability for our group to rent. I was assured there were more than enough on property to accommodate our 6 total players (across 2 groups). When we arrived we were told there was only 1 set available and the rest would have to be regular flex. When I mentioned that I had checked the day before to make sure we could be accomodated, I was told that the policy was “first come first served” by the lady in the club shop, so afternoon golfers who are looking to rent beware.

Course was in great condition and a joy to play. Easy to navigate from the whites with the right amount of challenge from that length course. Lots of sand to navigate but nothing unfair.

Other than paying the rental fee to play a premium and challenging course with clubs that weren’t appropriate, the experience was top draw.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 30
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Beautiful view

Excellent fair course with wide fairways, and very fast greens

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Response from on 02/06/2026:
We’re so glad you had a great experience! Thank you for the support — we’ll be ready to welcome you back for another great round.
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Beautiful Course

Had a 3pm T time , so only got in 15 holes. But what a nice course. Great conditions, wide fairways, and beautiful views of the mountains. I’d play it again in a heartbeat.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Response from on 02/06/2026:
We truly appreciate the five-star rating! It’s great to hear you enjoyed your visit — we’ll keep working hard to make every experience just as memorable.
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 10
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 38
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Impressive staff, conditions and scenery

There is very little that can be improved upon here. The bag team was quick and efficient. The pro shop staff was very welcoming and appreciative of our business. The practice green, chipping green and driving range were all a short walk from the clubhouse and in great shape. The starter was friendly and effective at optimizing the departures. From the first tee box through the last putt, the conditions were as good as any course I have ever played. Greens were quick (9) and rolled true. The bunkers, despite their small size and terrifying depth were immaculate. The fairways were like a carpet. Everywhere you looked was scenery worth remembering. It’s admittedly pricey, but a good deal from GolfNow turned a nice day into a truly memorable golf experience.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Response from on 01/20/2026:
Thank you for the great review! We’re thrilled you had a positive experience and look forward to welcoming you back again soon.
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Stunning views and conditions, pace of play and Marshalls mediocre

Title says it all, world class golf on the center stage . Immaculate course and views, facilities on par. We were 15 minutes behind schedule by hole 3, being a 2some behind an elderly 4some. One call to the pro shop, 1 rude and 1 kind Marshall later, and they allowed us to jump around skipping hole 4, playing 17 holes in total just before sundown. Overall I would do it again at the discounted rate that I received

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing

Pace of play

Martial wasn’t out late from what it looked like. Had a group in front that took forever.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 25
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Course was in pristine condition!!!!

The course was in pristine condition!!! Had a tee time at 2pm unfortunately couldn’t play last few holes due to it getting dark. Otherwise fabulous day, round and the course was in great condition. I will be back but earlier tee time this time of year.

Conditions Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Response from on 12/31/2025:
We really appreciate the five-star rating! It’s great to know you enjoyed your visit — we’ll keep working to make every experience just as good.
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Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Fantastic course! Best conditions I’ve ever seen

I went during over-seeding, so it was cartpath only. The tee boxes, fairways, and greens were lush.. I can’t wait to come back!

Parking: A

Club house: A

Pro shop: A

Golf Cart: A

Starter: A

Bev Cart: N.A (I didn’t need the bev cart, but they did have one to come out to you with a push of a button)

Tee boxes: A

Fairways: A

Bunkers: A

Greens: A

Overall (A+)

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Previously Played

Pace of play

Beautiful layout, course in great condition , but stacking tee times back to back and going out in mixed couple foursomes is a bad recipe, everybody hits from a different tee box and you get anxious from people hitting up on you! They should ask skill level when they check in the pro shop, I get it people pay a big ticket to play and want to finish their round but 5 hour rounds?

Conditions Excellent
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Fair
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