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PGA WEST Greg Norman Course
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The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.
No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."
"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."
Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.
Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.
What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.
Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.
"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 72 | 7156 yards | 75.1 | 139 |
| Black (W) | 72 | 7156 yards | 81.9 | 145 |
| Blue | 72 | 6671 yards | 72.8 | 133 |
| Blue (W) | 72 | 6671 yards | 79.2 | 137 |
| Blue/White | 72 | 6427 yards | 71.5 | 128 |
| Blue/White (W) | 72 | 6427 yards | 77.7 | 134 |
| White | 72 | 6227 yards | 70.6 | 126 |
| White (W) | 72 | 6227 yards | 76.6 | 131 |
| Gold | 72 | 5751 yards | 68.4 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 72 | 5751 yards | 73.4 | 126 |
| Gold/Red | 72 | 5523 yards | 67.0 | 115 |
| Gold/Red (W) | 72 | 5523 yards | 72.4 | 123 |
| Red | 72 | 5297 yards | 65.6 | 112 |
| Red (W) | 72 | 5297 yards | 71.4 | 120 |
| Silver | 72 | 3978 yards | 59.7 | 98 |
| Silver (W) | 72 | 3978 yards | 63.1 | 108 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 | 409 | 526 | 477 | 140 | 380 | 481 | 181 | 617 | 359 | 3570 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 216 | 443 | 431 | 537 | 180 | 461 | 3586 | 7156 |
| Black/blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 | 409 | 526 | 449 | 140 | 380 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 359 | 3448 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 537 | 161 | 440 | 3469 | 6917 |
| Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 | 379 | 499 | 449 | 137 | 349 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 339 | 3337 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 513 | 161 | 440 | 3334 | 6671 |
| White/Blue M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 | 352 | 499 | 419 | 137 | 349 | 420 | 144 | 561 | 339 | 3220 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 513 | 142 | 405 | 3207 | 6427 |
| White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 | 352 | 470 | 419 | 111 | 317 | 420 | 133 | 561 | 317 | 3100 | 370 | 272 | 507 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 491 | 142 | 405 | 3127 | 6227 |
| White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 | 329 | 470 | 384 | 111 | 317 | 395 | 133 | 531 | 317 | 2987 | 331 | 272 | 507 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 491 | 126 | 374 | 2965 | 5952 |
| Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 | 329 | 440 | 384 | 105 | 289 | 395 | 96 | 531 | 292 | 2861 | 331 | 262 | 457 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 476 | 126 | 374 | 2890 | 5751 |
| Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 | 329 | 440 | 350 | 105 | 289 | 370 | 96 | 509 | 292 | 2780 | 331 | 262 | 425 | 129 | 351 | 335 | 442 | 126 | 342 | 2743 | 5523 |
| Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 | 298 | 407 | 350 | 94 | 264 | 370 | 84 | 509 | 283 | 2659 | 305 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 337 | 335 | 442 | 102 | 342 | 2638 | 5297 |
| Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 | 298 | 407 | 262 | 94 | 264 | 266 | 84 | 376 | 283 | 2334 | 224 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 248 | 247 | 442 | 102 | 256 | 2294 | 4628 |
| Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 | 216 | 305 | 262 | 86 | 198 | 266 | 73 | 376 | 212 | 1994 | 224 | 170 | 313 | 107 | 248 | 247 | 324 | 95 | 256 | 1984 | 3978 |
| Handicap | 9 | 13 | 3 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 18 | 16 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 6 | 14 | 4 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 72 |
| Handicap (W) | 10 | 3 | 6 | 17 | 12 | 1 | 15 | 4 | 8 | 11 | 18 | 9 | 14 | 13 | 2 | 5 | 16 | 7 |
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 07/18/2025
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 07/18/2025
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 07/18/2025
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Photo submitted by johnwhite1727 on 06/05/2025
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Windy day Photo submitted by 43VUiyb2K5WWxq1MWcZc on 10/19/2024
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Go Get’em Photo submitted by u000005458741 on 05/13/2024
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16th hole Photo submitted by Peter2461971 on 04/30/2024
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Photo submitted by Chris2330035 on 03/05/2024
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Photo submitted by Tigerfan867 on 02/14/2024
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Photo submitted by Tigerfan867 on 02/14/2024
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Photo submitted by bchavez06 on 09/04/2023
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Photo submitted by bchavez06 on 09/04/2023
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Photo submitted by u484466922 on 06/20/2023
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Photo submitted by EricDSebring on 06/07/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by Kyle2054273 on 03/31/2023
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Photo submitted by u314159420178 on 01/19/2023
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Photo submitted by Timbuktulous on 10/24/2022
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Photo submitted by gjscott3rd on 09/12/2022
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Photo submitted by gjscott3rd on 09/12/2022
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Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Par 3 4th Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Bunker at 14 Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Photo submitted by golferchic78 on 11/13/2021
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13th hole — land it short of the pin! Photo submitted by u314161211354 on 03/09/2021
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Perfect day Photo submitted by u119001050 on 11/15/2020
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View from 8th tee box Photo submitted by Jennifer8804683 on 11/26/2019
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Photo submitted by Gremlingolfer on 05/15/2019
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Photo submitted by Gremlingolfer on 05/15/2019
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Photo submitted by xkyleclark3 on 06/13/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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Photo submitted by MikeBaileyGolf on 03/12/2018
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The end of a perfect day Photo submitted by kenstrati on 01/15/2018
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by Shawn5932249 on 10/01/2017
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
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Photo submitted by refrus123 on 01/27/2013
Jomigo
Great course, reasonably wide, user-friendly fairways and consistent sandtraps..
Pace of play could be improved with marshalls
1 hour delayed tee time!
Beautiful course very bad time management. Showed up and they made everyone wait an hour at 1st tee and delayed everyone tee time because they were backed up. Unfortunately our round that we paid 18 for only worked out 9. Very slow marshall on opening tee. Beautiful course really would have loved to play the whole thing at the tee time I reserved.
Great course. Killer greens
Course is beautiful but for average golfer the speed of greens and pin placements that day were disturbing
Great holiday golf course
Norman course is fun to play and more straight forward than its Dye neighbors. Layout is fun course conditions were excellent. It is just a pity that the bar closes at 4pm with no time for an after-game drink.
great experience
great conditions and not too many people playing it was midweek on a wednesday. Grass was perfect hreens almost great
absolutely fantastic course the condition of the course were great. The greens were good. It’s a very long course from the back tees.
Overall enjoyable day
Booked just hours before the time. Met two other singles. We had a great time. Finished all 18 just before dark. Course is great, tough, but fair. Will come back.
Course in great condition
Got a great deal for this course and turned out that every detail of this course was outstanding. Green speed is fast but smooth, just over seeded the course is in great condition.
High expectations Low experience
Sad but true. Played on a Saturday not that busy… cart path only… not sure why. Our twosome was paired with a nice but elderly gentleman member… slow slow slow. We felt the need to make up for his pace. We were sandwiched between a 4some and a 2some (members) who were on us constantly. The greens were burnt and inconsistent. We finished at 3:50pm… thinking let’s have a drink. NOPE they closed the bar early… wasn’t supposed to close until 5:00. No drink… it was a waste of time and money. This was the start of our vacation poor start for sure.
Hi there! Thank you for the feed back. This is the Operations Manager at PGA West, Norman Course. Sorry to hear your experience wasn't 5-star.
Just for clarification, we were "cart path only" because we were still fresh out of our seasonal overseed. We overseed later than most courses in the Coachella Valley so it might have been confusing as to why were on paths. Also, our greens may have looked aesthetically less green than the rest of the course but they are not "burned out". We do not overseed the greens for the winter because they are a type of grass (TifEagle) that can survive the winter without it. The off set is that they aren't as "bright" green as the rest of the course. They are currently rolling 11 on the Stimp meter and we are hosting an NCAA Div 1 tournament here in a few weeks.
As for the bar/restaurant closure, I do not have a good reason as to why you experienced the early closure. I will discuss with our F&B team as what happened that day and seek to do better. You certainly should have been able to get a drink between 3-5pm.
Please feel free to reach out to the Operations Manager in our Golf Shop at 760-564-3900. I would love an opportunity to hear about your experience in more detail and hopefully recapture the trust you put in with us by choosing to start your vacation here at the Norman Course at PGA West. We strive to deliver a 5-star experience to all our guests.
Thank you!
A boring course but in great condition. Pace was a bit slow.
A boring course but in great condition. Pace was a bit slow.
Cart path only - bummer
Invited another couple to join us on their anniversary and were surprised that it was cart path only !
Our friends were disappointed after we have over sold the Greg Norman course
Just check with the pro shop before you get to the course
Sloooow
Maybe one reason it takes so long to play this course is that some players walk the course and are not required to keep up with the group ahead.
Good value for beautiful course!
Paid $80 and got 13 holes in - great value on an excellent course!
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Hi there! This is the Operations Manager at PGA West, Norman Course. We appreciate the feedback.
We are a semi-private facility and had a Men's Day shotgun event for our membership that was scheduled for 8:30am which was pushed back an hour due to a frost delay. This unfortunately pushed all tee times back an hour. We apologize for that inconvenience.
Considering you prepaid through GolfNow for the tee time we were unable to offer you a different rate. Also, any tee time after 12:00pm during January is scaled to reflect that we don't guarantee completion of the round. We certainly do our best to keep pace of play moving so that anyone teeing off after 12:00pm can hopefully finish.
Please feel free to reach out to the Operations Manager at our golf shop (760) 564-3902. I am happy to discuss your experience in further detail and see if I can help you in a potential future visit should you be interested.
Thank you for choosing to play with us!