PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)
5 Stars
874
4 Stars
373
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.3
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
92.8%
Recommend this course
1277 out of 1453 reviews
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4.8
58 Reviews (58)
5 Stars
46
4 Stars
11
3 Stars
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0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.5
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
96.6%
Recommend this course
56 out of 58 reviews
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4.7
93 Reviews (93)
5 Stars
70
4 Stars
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3 Stars
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Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
94.6%
Recommend this course
88 out of 93 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 2
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Interesting greens

Took some time to get used to these greens. The closest experience I've had is sand greens on a muni in S. Dakota. Very firm - generally take one less club and land short of the green or you'll never hold it due to firmness and dome-like design.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 4
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

A great course layout, a little neglected in March 2022

This is our eighth or ninth year playing at the Greg Norman course in La Quinta. A great layout, great practice area, and generally a great environment. However, the course is not in great shape this year looking like it had been under watered and under attended. Too bad, because this is a top-notch course otherwise.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
1.0
First Time Playing

Not worth the Money

Played this course hoping that for the cost it would be pristine but found the greens to be very hard almost dry looked yellow from the distance. The fringe was patchy on some holes.

The clubhouse staff were great but the starter had the personality of a rock just wanted the cart number then off you go nothing about the course no tips or holes to keep in mind. When paying so much it’s the whole experience and unfortunately this one fell way short. Save some bucks and if you want to play a PGA west course try Peter Dye Mountain course.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 104
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 500 Contributor
First Time Playing

Poor poor condition but nice layout

Whole course was redid face lift . Very very poor condition of fairway and green was very slow. Not worth $150+ to played here . I did read the review of the condition before I booked this course. But I thought we might played once here to see how bad it was. But I was wrong who might believe all the reviews. GolfNow need to let the people know the poor condition of this course. Hope all the golfers read this review and don't try your luck to play this course this year.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

GolfNow - Let us Know of Poor Conditions

From Montana - booked thru GolfNow - showed up with 8 players - $200 per. - $1,600 total. During check-in, told they re-seeded greens - didn’t offer to reduce fees - greens were basically rolled mud, did not hold any shot - putting was very inconsistent / some very bumpy.

Had a few cocktails after - nice area. Some other members found out we were traveling and were embarrassed by the condition and the $200 fee.

Somehow, GolfNow and the course needs to work together to let golfer know of poor conditions….

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Service is definitely lacking

Paid $340 to play the course for a twosome (that's $445 Cdn for us snowbirds). It was a perfect day for golf, but if you wanted something to eat or drink, good luck.... Waited forever for a basic breakfast when there was only 4 other people out on the patio. Headed out and was hoping to see the cart girl at some point as it was super hot that day. Nothing, so when we got to the turn, stopped at clubhouse. She finally came by on hole #17. Not a great experience and likely won't make the drive out to this course next visit to Palm Springs.

Conditions Good
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Perfect experience for moderate/good golfers. Much lower key, less crowded than other PGAWEST courses.

Excellent facilities, in pristine condition, very well cared for.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 26
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 22
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Not worth price!!

Fairways great, bunkers great , greens need to mature!! Not yet a $239 course!!!

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 19
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Ricks comments

Nice open layout the course needs some grass maturing after there upgrades

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

Way to windy to play well. Could not cancel as we booked thru golfnow.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 11
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Course layout was generous off the tee. Tee to green conditions were decent, but the greens were dead - some screw up on overseeding greens earlier in the season. Greens wouldn't hold a shot and speed and roll were sketchy. Not what I’d expect when paying $181 green fees.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

More grass is needed in many areas but greens and tees in good shape. Pace of play was a bit slow . A big plus was additional water bottles were offered on the course! Bunkers had plenty of sand and many were very steep and high. On several holes it was bunker overkill! But I enjoyed the layout with many challenging holes!

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 22
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Always love it

They redid the green and and widened the fairway since I last played it.

Greens were about 10.5 when I played so certainly not too fast.

Some bear spots but it’s growing in nicely. A member we played with said it’s coming along nicely over the last couple of weeks.

Played in under 4 hours starting at 1140. Mostly members in front.

Staff was great

Range was well used but most ranges are. No problem finding grass for my irons.

Would definitely recommend and plan to play it a few more times while I’m here.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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