PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1444 Reviews (1444)
5 Stars
867
4 Stars
371
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.4
93.2%
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4.7
71 Reviews (71)
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.8%
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4.7
117 Reviews (117)
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
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4.7
95.7%
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112 out of 117 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1444 Reviews (1444)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 22
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5.0
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Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
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4.0
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Previously Played

Not worth price!!

Fairways great, bunkers great , greens need to mature!! Not yet a $239 course!!!

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
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3.0
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Conditions Average
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Layout Excellent
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Reviews 19
2.0
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Conditions Fair
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Layout Good
Friendliness Average
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3.0
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Ricks comments

Nice open layout the course needs some grass maturing after there upgrades

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart

Way to windy to play well. Could not cancel as we booked thru golfnow.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 11
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Course layout was generous off the tee. Tee to green conditions were decent, but the greens were dead - some screw up on overseeding greens earlier in the season. Greens wouldn't hold a shot and speed and roll were sketchy. Not what I’d expect when paying $181 green fees.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
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Reviews 8
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
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First Time Playing

More grass is needed in many areas but greens and tees in good shape. Pace of play was a bit slow . A big plus was additional water bottles were offered on the course! Bunkers had plenty of sand and many were very steep and high. On several holes it was bunker overkill! But I enjoyed the layout with many challenging holes!

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 22
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Always love it

They redid the green and and widened the fairway since I last played it.

Greens were about 10.5 when I played so certainly not too fast.

Some bear spots but it’s growing in nicely. A member we played with said it’s coming along nicely over the last couple of weeks.

Played in under 4 hours starting at 1140. Mostly members in front.

Staff was great

Range was well used but most ranges are. No problem finding grass for my irons.

Would definitely recommend and plan to play it a few more times while I’m here.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Reviews 6
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Fair
Pace Fair
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
3.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Golf shop staff unhelpful

Unhappy and unhelpful….. arrived early for my teetime and would not allow me to hit balls until half an hour before tee off….definitely fealt like a second class citizen

Will not return

Way better options in the valley

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Poor
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Terrible

Stay away this course wasn’t worth the price! The greens they say are newer and were way to firm, when i called before i booked i asked if the greens had been punched they said no, once we started playing we realized at least 7-8 holes had been punched. Even if the greens weren’t punched this course was boring and not worth the price. Played PGA west stadium course the next day and that made up for what would have been a huge let down of a trip if we only played at Norman. Trust me stay away unless you love terrible courses with boring flat layouts.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 22
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

The “new” Greg Norman course

Played this in years past and it was nice. They did a face lift and although it will be nice again it is not a good time to play it now . Give it a year and it will be better. The overseed did not come in great and they did not overseed greens probably because they are new. They should have discounted the round because of condition but actually having less pkay on the course for a year will help. I would pass on it this year and try for next year if you are out here every year.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 17
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Not in good condition

I was diappointed in the course condition. The fairways were patchy and the greens were rock hard. I have played this course before and it was beautiful. For $168, I expect better.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Dont bother

What a massive disappointment. You think PGA West and make assumptions about the quality of the experience you are going to have. Wrong !! The Greg Norman course is in terrible shape. It started at the driving range where we were hard pressed to find grass to hit off of. Our time was 1115 so you would think there would still be some grass - nope. It was almost all sand.

The course itself was terrible. The fairways were barely had grass on them. There were huge areas all of over the fairways that were bare. We had to bump our ball all day to find some grass. The areas in front of the greens were even worse, huge bald areas all over the place, on every hole. There were also large areas that were so wet it played as casual water.

The greens were a decent speed and rolled fairly well, although could have been better.

Hope you read this and save your money.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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