PGA WEST Greg Norman Course
About
The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.
No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."
"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."
Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.
Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.
What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.
Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.
"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 72 | 7156 yards | 75.1 | 139 |
| Black (W) | 72 | 7156 yards | 81.9 | 145 |
| Blue | 72 | 6671 yards | 72.8 | 133 |
| Blue (W) | 72 | 6671 yards | 79.2 | 137 |
| Blue/White | 72 | 6427 yards | 71.5 | 128 |
| Blue/White (W) | 72 | 6427 yards | 77.7 | 134 |
| White | 72 | 6227 yards | 70.6 | 126 |
| White (W) | 72 | 6227 yards | 76.6 | 131 |
| Gold | 72 | 5751 yards | 68.4 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 72 | 5751 yards | 73.4 | 126 |
| Gold/Red | 72 | 5523 yards | 67.0 | 115 |
| Gold/Red (W) | 72 | 5523 yards | 72.4 | 123 |
| Red | 72 | 5297 yards | 65.6 | 112 |
| Red (W) | 72 | 5297 yards | 71.4 | 120 |
| Silver | 72 | 3978 yards | 59.7 | 98 |
| Silver (W) | 72 | 3978 yards | 63.1 | 108 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 | 409 | 526 | 477 | 140 | 380 | 481 | 181 | 617 | 359 | 3570 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 216 | 443 | 431 | 537 | 180 | 461 | 3586 | 7156 |
| Black/Blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 | 409 | 526 | 449 | 140 | 380 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 359 | 3448 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 537 | 161 | 440 | 3469 | 6917 |
| Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 | 379 | 499 | 449 | 137 | 349 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 339 | 3337 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 513 | 161 | 440 | 3334 | 6671 |
| Blue/White M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 | 352 | 499 | 419 | 137 | 349 | 420 | 144 | 561 | 339 | 3220 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 513 | 142 | 405 | 3207 | 6427 |
| White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 | 352 | 470 | 419 | 111 | 317 | 420 | 133 | 561 | 317 | 3100 | 370 | 272 | 507 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 491 | 142 | 405 | 3127 | 6227 |
| White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 | 329 | 470 | 384 | 111 | 317 | 395 | 133 | 531 | 317 | 2987 | 331 | 272 | 507 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 491 | 126 | 374 | 2965 | 5952 |
| Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 | 329 | 440 | 384 | 105 | 289 | 395 | 96 | 531 | 292 | 2861 | 331 | 262 | 457 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 476 | 126 | 374 | 2890 | 5751 |
| Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 | 329 | 440 | 350 | 105 | 289 | 370 | 96 | 509 | 292 | 2780 | 331 | 262 | 425 | 129 | 351 | 335 | 442 | 126 | 342 | 2743 | 5523 |
| Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 | 298 | 407 | 350 | 94 | 264 | 370 | 84 | 509 | 283 | 2659 | 305 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 337 | 335 | 442 | 102 | 342 | 2638 | 5297 |
| Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 | 298 | 407 | 262 | 94 | 264 | 266 | 84 | 376 | 283 | 2334 | 224 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 248 | 247 | 442 | 102 | 256 | 2294 | 4628 |
| Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 | 216 | 305 | 262 | 86 | 198 | 266 | 73 | 376 | 212 | 1994 | 224 | 170 | 313 | 107 | 248 | 247 | 324 | 95 | 256 | 1984 | 3978 |
| Handicap | 9 | 13 | 3 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 18 | 16 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 6 | 14 | 4 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 72 |
| Handicap (W) | 9 | 13 | 5 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 7 | 10 | 18 | 8 | 14 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 16 | 6 |
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Spectacular! Photo submitted by BuzzEng on 01/18/2026
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Par 3 4th Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Bunker at 14 Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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13th hole — land it short of the pin! Photo submitted by u314161211354 on 03/09/2021
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View from 8th tee box Photo submitted by Jennifer8804683 on 11/26/2019
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Not worth price!!
Fairways great, bunkers great , greens need to mature!! Not yet a $239 course!!!
Ricks comments
Nice open layout the course needs some grass maturing after there upgrades
Way to windy to play well. Could not cancel as we booked thru golfnow.
Course layout was generous off the tee. Tee to green conditions were decent, but the greens were dead - some screw up on overseeding greens earlier in the season. Greens wouldn't hold a shot and speed and roll were sketchy. Not what I’d expect when paying $181 green fees.
More grass is needed in many areas but greens and tees in good shape. Pace of play was a bit slow . A big plus was additional water bottles were offered on the course! Bunkers had plenty of sand and many were very steep and high. On several holes it was bunker overkill! But I enjoyed the layout with many challenging holes!
Always love it
They redid the green and and widened the fairway since I last played it.
Greens were about 10.5 when I played so certainly not too fast.
Some bear spots but it’s growing in nicely. A member we played with said it’s coming along nicely over the last couple of weeks.
Played in under 4 hours starting at 1140. Mostly members in front.
Staff was great
Range was well used but most ranges are. No problem finding grass for my irons.
Would definitely recommend and plan to play it a few more times while I’m here.
Golf shop staff unhelpful
Unhappy and unhelpful….. arrived early for my teetime and would not allow me to hit balls until half an hour before tee off….definitely fealt like a second class citizen
Will not return
Way better options in the valley
Terrible
Stay away this course wasn’t worth the price! The greens they say are newer and were way to firm, when i called before i booked i asked if the greens had been punched they said no, once we started playing we realized at least 7-8 holes had been punched. Even if the greens weren’t punched this course was boring and not worth the price. Played PGA west stadium course the next day and that made up for what would have been a huge let down of a trip if we only played at Norman. Trust me stay away unless you love terrible courses with boring flat layouts.
The “new” Greg Norman course
Played this in years past and it was nice. They did a face lift and although it will be nice again it is not a good time to play it now . Give it a year and it will be better. The overseed did not come in great and they did not overseed greens probably because they are new. They should have discounted the round because of condition but actually having less pkay on the course for a year will help. I would pass on it this year and try for next year if you are out here every year.
Not in good condition
I was diappointed in the course condition. The fairways were patchy and the greens were rock hard. I have played this course before and it was beautiful. For $168, I expect better.
Dont bother
What a massive disappointment. You think PGA West and make assumptions about the quality of the experience you are going to have. Wrong !! The Greg Norman course is in terrible shape. It started at the driving range where we were hard pressed to find grass to hit off of. Our time was 1115 so you would think there would still be some grass - nope. It was almost all sand.
The course itself was terrible. The fairways were barely had grass on them. There were huge areas all of over the fairways that were bare. We had to bump our ball all day to find some grass. The areas in front of the greens were even worse, huge bald areas all over the place, on every hole. There were also large areas that were so wet it played as casual water.
The greens were a decent speed and rolled fairly well, although could have been better.
Hope you read this and save your money.