PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1440 Reviews (1440)
5 Stars
864
4 Stars
370
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
93.0%
Recommend this course
1264 out of 1440 reviews
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4.8
68 Reviews (68)
5 Stars
53
4 Stars
13
3 Stars
2
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.6%
Recommend this course
65 out of 68 reviews
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4.7
116 Reviews (116)
5 Stars
90
4 Stars
22
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.7%
Recommend this course
111 out of 116 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1440 Reviews (1440)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 16
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Greens were quick

Cart path only during the time we played. The greens were quick. Didn’t hold any of our approach shots. Tough track.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Awesome!

Keep it in play and conditions are perfect….

Miss a fairway and almost guaranteed a bogey or worse!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Had a wonderful round

Pro shop staff were very helpful and welcoming. The course was in great shape with very fast greens. Really liked the computer screen on the cart showing the layout and distances of each hole, tips, and scorecard. I would play at this course again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Great day for play

Everything was perfect, just understaffed in the club house restaraunt

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Beautiful course and SANDY

If you like sand, you will like this course. The bummer for us was that they had just seeded the fairways and it was cart path only. It got to be very tiring after 13 holes and we were very disappointed having to pay so much to play and have to walk back and forth across the fairways. I would have preferred to walk had I had the chance. Courses should give a heads up when there is maintenance like that so the golfer has a choice to play or not.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Course conditions

Obviously being over seeded and greens were rock hard.

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Pace of Play Slow due to Cart Path Only

The course and Golf Now should develop a process to let golfers know prior to booming when cart path only will be enforced. Until Golf Now can do this I will only book directly with proshops..

Conditions Average
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 8
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Wished I’d known

Would have liked to know course was CPO before booking

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 75
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 1000 Contributor
First Time Playing

Desert Shark

This was a really cool, strictly desert/target-golf layout in fantastic condition! It was still cart path only, but the overseer is growing in nicely and the greens were a very dark green and rolling great. POP was barely over 4 hours, little/no waiting. Free range balls, excellent short game area, very friendly staff. All in all, this was a wonderful experience and I would recommend this course to any serious golfer

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 17
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Perfect weather
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 18
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Previously Played

Wait a while to play

Course was cart path only and will be until February. Fairways were reseeded and sparse in some spots. Greens were painted and not up to pga west standards. Not worth full price at this time.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 13
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Fairways thin and greens like a rock

When we made the reservation, and when we checked in, we were not told that the course had just reopened just two days previously, and the course was cart path only. Until the fairways fill in and the greens come back from being dormant, there are a number of courses in the valley, that are in better condition at a better price.

We have played this course many times in the past, and this was the first time that the conditions did not make for an enjoyable round.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 37
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Off Season Condition

This is a beautifully design course that is not currently in it's best condition. The fairways are thin as the winter grass has not fully grown in so there are no carts allowed on the fairways. The greens were also treated and in the process growing in. Still a nice course with a great practice area.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Poor
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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