Arizona Biltmore Golf Club - Estates Course

We realize that everyone's abilities vary, however, absent golf etiquette, a ranger would help greatly with pace of play when an entire golf course is being held up by one foursome. It would go a long way toward promoting happy golfers on the course while not impacting the one foursome's enjoyment. If anything, they might enjoy their round more because they wouldn't be faced with the stress of looking back on every shot and seeing someone waiting for them to hit. Absent that, The Biltmore golf was a fun experience.

I first played this course in 1968. I always liked it. The course is not that difficult but it has Donald Ross style greens and the greens are fast. The chipping is difficult for me but I like the challenge.

Course will be set in mid July or August for sure get the price for what it is right now

OK here is the good;

The New Clubhouse & adjoining restaurant is first class. Beautiful facility that looks out over the course. Staff was friendly.

The bad; IMO the decision to compress 18 modern golf holes into what was the old Adobe course was a huge mistake. Why not make a great nine hole course (27 hole resort facility) instead of shoehorning in 18 holes. Because of this (and other reasons), playing here is a not enjoyable & downright stressful - here is why:

• Tabletop greens that are rock hard & don't hold shots.

• Tiny tee boxes that are so hard you Need a jackhammer to get tee in ground

• holes are so close together - smallest mishit end’s up in adjacent fairway. Causing slow play

• Slow Play

• Areas of course where several tee boxes are close together causing confusion and safety concerns

• Dangerous – almost got hit by errant shots (twice).

• They charge over $100 to play here in the summer (peak time) – really?

• For local golfers – there are soooo many better choices out there – don’t waste your time or $$

This was a favorite course for my wife and I when we lived in Phoenix. We played the course again during a birthday trip back Arizona, it’s was completely redone and we enjoyed the new look very much. We would have stayed to check out the new Club house and restaurant but we had reservations elsewhere for the birthday dinner. Great Day of Golf!

course is great condition especially for the money, but the layout has golf balls coming at you from every angle

Course was in good shape, and pace was good. Refreshing change from desert-target golf

They obviously spent a lot of money renovating the pro shop & restaurant, but virtually nothing on the golf course. Planting lots of ficus column trees to try to block errant shots does not constitute a course renovation!

The crowned greens with false fronts are already brown (in April!) & scraped dry with virtually no grass on them. They’re unfairly rock-hard & will not hold any shots. Doesn’t matter how good a shot you hit. It’s not going to stay on greens that play like a concrete driveway.

The age-old routing problems on the Estates course persist. The crazy layout means you’re constantly in danger of being hit by wayward shots from other golfers. Most fairways are routed back-and-forth next to another fairway. It’s much too easy for shots to go off-line & land in someone else’s vicinity. It’s actually dangerous.

The fairways, unlike the greens, were in good condition. Tee grounds were only fair- rock-hard like the greens.

Overall, the Estates course plays like a good muni, but with diabolical greens. It’s in a beautiful location & the surrounding scenery is fantastic, but that doesn’t justify the premium prices for this course.

There are dozens of other courses around Phoenix & Scottsdale that are in far better condition. It’s a shame.

The redesign of the Estates course was very nice. The app I use for distance was not updated but the on cart GPS was great. Other than a few singles players that appeared from nowhere and seemed to be members jumping in and playing wherever they chose, it as a good round.

We had played the links course and really enjoyed it. However the Estate course was definitely not the same. Many fairways and tee boxes inter connect so balls flying all over the place. Our cart got hit by a ball and I almost got hit by another ball while waiting to tee off on tee box. The course itself is good but just too dangerous in my opinion. To make it worst there where some groups of 5 that we saw and our round was 5 hours and 15 minutes. Won't play the Estate course again but will the links. The staff and facilities were all great!

Really tight course, lots of balls flying around. Several greens are so firm, hard to land ball. I will likely not play again.

While this course was recently updated, it really plays like an old outer and inner circle course. It is worth playing once. Nice to see the older mansions surrounding it being updated.

Great course and you have to go to the restaurant on Wednesday to Sunday for dinner. Amazing.

The grounds were hard, fairways are narrow, staff was not friendly at all. Trying to place your tee in the grounds was so dry and hard. Golfers were all over adjacent fairways. Staff was rude, short and too busy to be helpful!

Firstly, it was windy and there had been cancellations so that probably helped the pace of play, but, on the other hand, I don’t think the wind would have helped the greens, which were hard and quite rough.

The course isn’t at all tricky, but the fairways often run parallel and we were constantly waiting for people who had strayed onto our fairway to play their ball. We all know it happens from time to time, but this was seemingly on every hole.

The tenth runs alongside the driving range and there is no net to protect you…..not ideal!

The tee boxes were very hard and, as I mentioned earlier, so were the greens. You had very little chance of holding the green if you pitched on it.

I had good company and enjoyed my afternoon, but I wouldn’t want to be paying full price for this. Perhaps if we ever get some rain, the course might play a little better.