Talking Stick G.C. O'odham Course: #7 & #10
View from O'odham Course at Talking Stick G.C. - holes 7 and 10
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4.3
780 Reviews (780)
5 Stars
328
4 Stars
284
3 Stars
107
2 Stars
30
1 Stars
31
Conditions
4.4
Value
4.1
Layout
4.3
Friendliness
4.5
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
86.4%
Recommend this course
649 out of 780 reviews
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4.5
53 Reviews (53)
5 Stars
36
4 Stars
10
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
2
Conditions
4.6
Value
4.2
Layout
4.4
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.8
84.9%
Recommend this course
45 out of 53 reviews
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4.3
98 Reviews (98)
5 Stars
59
4 Stars
23
3 Stars
7
2 Stars
1
1 Stars
8
Conditions
4.5
Value
4.2
Layout
4.3
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.2
StaffFriendliness
4.6
84.7%
Recommend this course
83 out of 98 reviews
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Course Highlights
Exceptionally friendly staff, well-stocked pro shop, and reliable course conditions make this Scottsdale layout a consistently rewarding experience. Wide-open fairways, strategically placed bunkers, and smooth pace of play deliver strong value for golfers of all skill levels.

About

Holes 18
Type Public
Style Links
Par 70
Length 7133 yards
Slope 124
Rating 72.6

The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.

"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw

The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.

The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.

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Course Details

Year Built 1998
Fairways Bermuda/Perennial Rye Grass
Greens MiniVerde Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Bill Coore (1998) Ben Crenshaw (1998)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Bunker Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area No
Putting Green Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted VISA, MasterCard, Amex Welcomed
Metal Spikes Allowed No, rentals available
Fivesomes Allowed No
Walking Allowed Yes
Dress code Collared Shirts & No denim

Food & Beverage

Restaurant

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Conference Facilities, Banquet Facilities, Locker Rooms

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Reviews

4.3
780 Reviews (780)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 19
Patio Dining 9
Brunch 6
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 37
Undulating Greens 22
Plays Long 15
This course/club is great for:
A Weekend Splurge 23
Advanced Golfers 22
Locals 19
This Course's Location is:
At a Resort 40
Convenient to the City 40
Near Local Attractions 16

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Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a year
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Nice!

Nice track in solid condition. The staff was friendly and pace of play was under 4 1/2 hours. The only thing that was less than great was the range was short on grass....

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Good course

Course very straight forward. In good shape. Worth the $90 we paid, would not pay more. Had lunch after in at the course which was very good.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Don't Stop At The Turn !!

Our overall experience was good on the North course except when looking for food and drink at the turn. After being sent on a wild goose chase through the club house by several employees eventually guiding us to the bar in the clubhouse, we told them we need to forgo the order as we are making the turn. After a 5 minute stop in the clubhouse with no food or drink to show for it, we were approached (accosted) by an octogenarian marshal who chewed us out for stopping at the turn. After explaining that several staff had guided us through the club when we told them we were making the turn, he repeatedly scolded us for stopping less than 5 minutes. We since learned the beverage cart has sandwiches but no one told this and there were no visible signs posted that read "Don't Stop At The Turn - You Will Be Reprimanded". We will look elsewhere to play on our next visit to PHX.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 2
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Talking Stick

Very good course and very enjoyable to play. The greens were lightning quick and couse was in excellent condition.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Really fun track!

The South Course at Talking Stick was a really fun course to play. The course and greens were in completely immaculate condition. Very generous fairways make it a fairly easy driving course, with the approach shots and greens presenting the real challenges. The greens are nearly all slightly elevated, and many have shaved shoulders, a la Pinehurst number 2. A lot of false fronts made it imperative to carry approach shots far enough onto the green, or they would come rolling back at you. The greens themselves were extremely quick, but very true. Overall, a really beautiful and fun course to play.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once every three months
1.0
Previously Played
Excellent weather
Used cart

Bad....play North Greens ridiculous

First, I booked to play the North course, but they put us on the South. Agreed to the switch mainly because they didn't advertise the North as cart path only. The south course is a nice layout, the greens are ridiculous. hard a rock, with massive false fronts on virtually every green. Will never play this one again.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Not worth the cost

Not impressed. Not worth the cost. Have played at 8 different courses in the last two weeks and would rate this near the bottom of the list. Cart GPS did not work. Promised it would be fixed. No one ever showed up. Course uninteresting when compared with other similar priced Valley courses.

Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Excellent weather
Used cart

Staff will take advantage of you, pay attention

I booked early to get a good rate. The guy that checked us in tried to charge was twice what I had already paid. Not cool. The course was pretty awesome and the food was GREAT. Best salmon salad I have ever had. I will be back but make sure you have your staff not try and take advantage of people traveling to boost Scottsdale economy.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Poor
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great Spot for Afternoon 18

Started at 1:44 and got around in 4 hours and 20 minutes - beat sunset by 15 minutes. Course was in great shape, unbelievable views and worth the $80/per player I paid in the afternoon!

Conditions Good
Value Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Talking Stick - North

What you see is what you get. You can low on this course.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Beware Mosquitos

This is a nice course that have played many times. Enjoyable layout, not too challenging. Course was in good shape and enjoyable until about hole 13 (around 4 pm) then the mosquitos came out. By hole 15 it was in tolerable. I would wait to play this until a cool spell takes out the mosquitos.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Kind of whatever

A bombers course. Flat and wide fairways. Not much to it. Mosquitos were out of control. Range and putting greens closed and still charged $85.

Value Fair
Friendliness Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

A Good Resort Course

Playing in the afternoon is always a gamble, but the pace of play was good and we finished the round in just under 4 hours. Staff were friendly and facilities in good shape. The driving range and putting green were both closed due to over-seeding. The course is less challenging than other "target golf" desert courses in the area, featuring many wide open straight holes. It's often possible to hit your tee shot 40 yards in the wrong direction to the left or right and still be in the green stuff. Some holes offer challenging greens with tricky bunkers. Great views of the McDowell Mountains and sunsets over Camelback.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 9
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Good weather
Used cart

Course was flooded

The course was completely flooded due to a rain 4 days ago. driving range was still completely under water, several holes became "water holes". Staff was in the middle of changing management- most didn't care to even be there, and didn't really know what was going on.. Didn't stop them from still charging premium rates though Cart girl was consistent, but if you are going to paly here, hold out for the South course- much more enjoyable

Conditions Fair
Value Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Nice course, but overpriced.

Wide fairways. Relatively flat. Nothing really stands out as worth remembering. I doubt this course has a memorable signature hole. Pace of play was fast because it was end of summer and very hot, so few people were playing. Excellent quesadillas in the restaurant. Friendly staff. Exactly what you would expect of a resort staff. Price was far more than what we paid at other nicer courses in the area at the same time. I would say it is okay course, but if you look around, then you can find better deals in the area.

Conditions Good
Value Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

mosquito city

How dare you send players on the course when you know there is an infestation of mosquitos. I should have guessed when the golf shop had mosquito repellent lined up on the counter. Yes I did buy some but it still was not enough. So how can I possibly rate the course when I'm trying to run all the time.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Fair weather
Used cart

Shade

The course is wide open and the shade is limited. You are in the heat all the time

Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Average weather
Used cart

Fairways in great condition

Really enjoyed the course. Varied holes which made it interesting and enjoyable to play. Course is very fair. Fairways and teeboxes were in amazing condition; particularly for this time of year. The only negative was the light layer of sand on the greens, which made them very difficult to read and slower than anticipated. A very enjoyable golf experience overall!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 33
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Good weather
Used cart

Bumpy, slow greens

I enjoy Talking Stick as a course that can be all things to all players. It offers plenty of challenge for good players, but doesn't overly punish beginners. An excellent track in that respect.

My only complaint from this day would be that, while the practice green rolled smooth and fast, the greens on the North Course were bumpy, slow, and just generally still coming back from aeration. They were fine in and of themselves, especially for August in Arizona, but it's very frustrating to have such a big disconnect between what you try to get used to on the practice green and the actual conditions on the course.

Also not a fan of the loud music coming from the hotel. The hotel is some distance away, but even on a Sunday morning, the music was loud enough that it was annoying and could be heard from every part of the course. Hard to imagine how loud it was at the hotel itself, but that's a good way to spoil the peacefulness of an otherwise nicely secluded golf course.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Lovely track!!

Love the course, greens are a little bit slow but the course is in absolute perfect conditions!! BRING YOUR OFF BUG REPELLANT!! They are relentless!!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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