Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Reviewer Photos
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Photo submitted by Ericm92 on 03/27/2026
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Photo submitted by UEfwV8Z4RI3LAplQGGCt on 02/14/2026
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Photo submitted by u000002896151 on 08/20/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Fairways in great condition
Really enjoyed the course. Varied holes which made it interesting and enjoyable to play. Course is very fair. Fairways and teeboxes were in amazing condition; particularly for this time of year. The only negative was the light layer of sand on the greens, which made them very difficult to read and slower than anticipated. A very enjoyable golf experience overall!
Bumpy, slow greens
I enjoy Talking Stick as a course that can be all things to all players. It offers plenty of challenge for good players, but doesn't overly punish beginners. An excellent track in that respect.
My only complaint from this day would be that, while the practice green rolled smooth and fast, the greens on the North Course were bumpy, slow, and just generally still coming back from aeration. They were fine in and of themselves, especially for August in Arizona, but it's very frustrating to have such a big disconnect between what you try to get used to on the practice green and the actual conditions on the course.
Also not a fan of the loud music coming from the hotel. The hotel is some distance away, but even on a Sunday morning, the music was loud enough that it was annoying and could be heard from every part of the course. Hard to imagine how loud it was at the hotel itself, but that's a good way to spoil the peacefulness of an otherwise nicely secluded golf course.
Lovely track!!
Love the course, greens are a little bit slow but the course is in absolute perfect conditions!! BRING YOUR OFF BUG REPELLANT!! They are relentless!!
worth it
This is a Troon managed course and, as always, they are in excellent condition. the North course requires shot placement on approach shots. Fairways are wide and fairly forgiving. Greens were plugged and slow.
Nice course
I will play here again. One of the nicer courses for the money.
Great course
The course was in great condition. Taking advantage of summer rates very reasonable.
Friday and Saturday STAY AWAY/ BEWARE !
Course very green, fairways and greens great shape !
Played 18 holes with RAP Music pounding out of the Talking Sticks Pool Area non stop......I could not imagine being at that pool it was so loud a mile away on the course ! ! I WILL NEVER PLAY THERE AGAIN ON THE WEEKENDS ! GOLFERS YOU'VE BEEN WARNED !
Bombs away! Wide fairways...drivers delight.
North Course invites you to take the driver out of the bag. Couldn't say no...
Enjoyable Course
Excellent turf practice range with Callaway balls. The course is a fairly docile layout from 6500 yards. Playing a combo or from the tips would offer more of a challenge for low handicappers. Fairways were very nice and the desert areas are not as covered with bushes as many others. But if off line, you can get stuck behind a bush. The greens were topsoiled, so putting was hit and miss and the greens were pretty hard as I was told they were redone last year. They were in nice shape. Distances between greens and tee boxes are the shortest I have ever seen so this course is easily walkable but I do not know if this is allowed. The course is flat. Food and beverage in the grill was very good as was the service.
Great Course, breakfast is tooo much $
Course was excellent but eat breakfast some place else. An omelet for over $11.00, come on.
Nice course
Fairly wide open, easy greens. Wide fairways, large greens.
Hot Day on a great golf course.
Temps in 100's But I had alot of fun. Thanks Talking Stick!!
Desert golf at its best
Played early morning as a single. Only negative for me was that pro shop guy said that they don't normally allow singles out first in the morning because I might interfere with the maintenance crew if I play too fast. Next booked tee time was 650 so I told him I'd just play slower than I normally would. So on some holes I played two balls then on the back 9 I replayed two holes. I still finished in less than 3 hours. I played the north course from the gold tees which I found a little long for me. I had a long iron into the green on several par fours. The course is in excellent condition. Plenty of sand and doglegs. A couple of par threes are over 200 yards from the gold tees but I didn't want to move up to the jade because the course dropped to 5900 yds from them but was about 6400 from gold. Player assistants and beverage cart folks were friendly and courteous. No water hazards on this course, not sure if it's the same on the south course. Only negative is that sometimes finding a readable yardage marker on a sprinkler head was problematic. I had a great time and will definitely recommend this course to my out of town friends.
Slow play
We waited on every shot on every hole. Quit after 9 holes. It was a 2 1/2 hour front nine!
Great course
This course is in great shape and fun to play. The only thing i would say is that the staff in the pro shop could have been a little friendlier. Not rude by any means just not overly friendly either.
First 3 holes on the back nine of the North Course are tough.
If you have never played this course, the back nine can be lot of trouble. Greens were rolling about 10-11.
Talking Stick North- Worth Talking About
I played Talking Stick North the other day on a two day trip to Phoenix. We decided to splurge a little bit and spend the money to play a nice course on the holiday weekend and I'm so glad we did. The course was in fantastic condition and was really fun to play. Every hole is different and the views are nice. One of the best aspects of the North Course is that you're tucked away from your surroundings and you don't see other groups on the course. It makes it feel like you're the only one out there, which I find very enjoyable. Wide fairways on the front 9 turn into narrower, pick your shot towards the back 9.
The only downside I would mention is that if you play off the back tees, most of the holes you have the same shot into the green. 280 off the tee, 200+ into the green. It became rather boring hitting my 3 or 4-iron nearly every hole. Additionally there's a 260yrd par 3 which is a bit mean and long. The greens are fast and can be sneaky tricky. Good luck making long putts with all the subtle breaks. Nonetheless I had a great time and would play this course again. Free range balls before the round! Get out early before the heat hits and you’ll have a good time.
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What's the yardage???
Nice open fairways to give a change from the usual desert layouts
Just not well marked for yardages
Greens a bit slow but overall good..
Talking Stick Course
I was from out of town not knowing where to go. A couple of days before played another course not impressed, but once I drove into the area of the course I knew right there that this was going to be a great course. When in the area again I will definitely play both courses. I played the North course. My advise to everyone from out of town don's waste your time. PLAY THIS COURSE ONLY!! And have fun like I did
Fun course
It's a great lay out and with the desert always in play you need quality shots. The staff does a great job setting you up and making sure you know where to go and when. Pace of play was a little slow but I would come back.
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