Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
| Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
| Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
| Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
| Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
| Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
| Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
| Rust (W) | 70 | 4677 yards | 65.7 | 109 |
| Rust | 70 | 4677 yards | 61.4 | 105 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
| Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
| Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
| Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
| Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
| Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
| Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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Reviewer Photos
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Photo submitted by UEfwV8Z4RI3LAplQGGCt on 02/14/2026
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Photo submitted by Dbyrne484 on 01/28/2025
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 6 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 13 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Talking Stick (O'odham), hole 18 Photo submitted by TimGavrichGP on 11/29/2024
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Photo submitted by BubbaPrehoda on 10/04/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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Photo submitted by gg020272 on 07/23/2024
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Pristine and picturesque but 5+ hours and too many loud, drunk groups
Course and facility are fabulous, but there was no enforcement around pace of play and more disappointing was the tolerance for several loud and over beveraged groups allowed to play a scramble on a Saturday. The lack of marshaling to limit these issues was disappointing as the 5+ hours and constant yelling are not even close to an acceptable or tolerable golf environment.
What should be a 5-5 rating gets big penalty points for lack of enforcing rules for others
North course is in great shape for so soon after over seeding
This is only the second time I have played the North course at Talking Stick.It seems much more challenging than the South course. Playing time was quite good considering it was cart path only. GPS on the carts would certainly speed up play
Good Condition after overseed
For a Troon course, I am always happy how they maintain course and just coming off overseed, it is in great shape as always. However first time playing North course, I expected more of a challenge. Flat parkland course without much difficulty.
Good course
if you like wide open fairways plush grass and moderately paced greens, this is a great find.
I played the North course and there really wasn't any particular hole that evoked strong memories. Nevertheless, it's a nice course with decent distance off the tees and during slow season, it was a good value.
I would probably play here again but it would be a while until I do so.
Good Value
Course is in great summer shape. Greens are a bit shaggy but to expected this time of year. Played the North course which is my personal favorite of the two courses. Met some great people to round out the foursome. Was a very enjoyable round. Play it while the rates are low.
Generous fairways
The course is long but has generous fairways. It's definitely a course to play.
very large fairways
Greens and fairways were very lush. Also very well marked and flags have prisums in them for your range finder.
Average value for the money
Nothing wows me about the course. Seems a little long No real signature holes or panoramic views that got my attention. The food and service was good in the restaurant.They had a good beer selection.
Not impressed
Few holes are nice, but most are average to boring layouts. Not impressed.
Easy and flat course.
The course plays easy, straight, flat and without surprises. Easy to walk the course. Good practice facility. Very reasonable prices.
Very good condition, good layout.
This was my first time playing Talking Stick, and I played the North course. It is a nice layout and in very good condition. It had a number of long par 4's,especially on the back nine, which made it challenging for a not super long hitter, but it was fair and enjoyable, and the staff was all friendly and helpful.
Lots of room
I played the North course and was expecting a little bit more of a challenge for such an expensive course. A number of the holes seemed to be very similar. At one time we turned the cart around because we were sure that we had already played the hole. The course did not excite us. I will say that, besides a few green repairs, the couse was in great shape and the staff with nice, friendly, and helpful. Definitely not worth paying 'winter' rates Dec. thru Apri.
Beautiful Layout
Course is a beautiful layout, staff is great, but the greens were in horrendous shape.
Beautiful setting Fairways in beautiful condition
Greens running bumpy and slow. Course maintained in pristine condition
Excellent Staff
Course was in Great shape for August play. 18th green bad, all others in nice shape. Generous fairways and Great tee options to make your day enjoyable.
Nice setup I like the north course.
Overall a great course. Some greens need to be addressed. I give it a C+
It has good features, greens were not in good shape.
The greens on at least three holes were "patched" with pieces of sod. Green 18 on the North course was "unputtable". I have played this course a lot. This is the worst I have seen it. Poor greens!!!!!!!!!
Better wait for the fall
For the 50.00 that I spent it was a poor value. Eagle Mountain, Copper Canyon and Whirlwind are better value. Half of the greens were in back shape. The practice putting green was closed.
One of the best in AZ
I really enjoy playing Troon courses, especially Talking Stick.
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The course was dealing with the rain that occurred several days before. There were still areas underwater. The course was in decent shape the greens were bumpy and slow, Overall the course is playable.
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