PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
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4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.3
Amenities
4.3
93.8%
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4.5
31 Reviews (31)
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4.8
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4.3
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Amenities
4.1
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4.7
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4.7
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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4.6
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unhappy.

this was my first time playing this course for my birthday round and it was no where what i expected from a PGA course and after playing the jack Nicholas tournament course the day before. every single staff member did not seem happy to be there today and wanted to push you along. despite really hot temperatures ( we knew what we were getting into with the heat ) cart girl and worked driving around seemed annoyed anytime we asked for water. there was no towels to keep cool offered or available till hole 5. no ice or water at the pit stop machines. best ice available from cart worker driving around was soapy water. cart girl left early about hole 6. we constantly kept getting told to pick up pace of play despite no a single golfer on the course in front or behind out group the duration of our round. and constantly had a worker just lurking around keeping an eye on us watching us play for some odd reason. and kept telling us they would kick us off the course if we played with anyone not in our group despite not doing it the full round. and the course being completely void of other golfers. it was not the experience i was expecting the have from something with the PGA name but the course it self was nice. not much shade but if you happened to out of the fairways the desert areas are pretty forgiving.

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Friendliness Poor
Pace Average
Amenities Poor
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First Time Playing

Fun Course, Even When It's 112f Out!!!!

Wasn't sure what to expect before I teed off. I'd played two Greg Norman courses in the past. One I liked, Wente Vineyards. One, I wasn't a fan of, the now closed Vellano in Chino Hills.

I ended up liking this course, a lot, especially after playing the very nice, but unforgiving Stadium & Mountain courses, recently.

Staff was friendly. Starter was cool. Played mid June and course was in very good to great shape. Even though there's less grass on this course than many other close by courses, I didn't think it was a tight course. Nor was it overly penal, I lost two balls all day and didn't lose my first til 16.

Pace was great. Played in just over 3 hours. Water on the course, which is always nice, but when it's 112f+ out it exceeds nice. Especially with the ice machine running🥶

The Stadium course & Mountain courses are great tracks and I'd play em anytime, but they're not courses I'd necessarily wanna play everyday. This is more of an everyday, resort type course. Fun even if you're not hitting all that well. Also, even though it's a "desert course", it still kinda had a tropical oasis feel to it. Lotsa water and some palm trees.

There are houses on most of the holes, but they're not really in play and seem to sit below the fairways, so even though they're there, you don't really see them like you might at some of the older courses close by.

I'd recommend the Norman Course to any & all. Rate was also really good. Well worth the mid June twilite rate I paid, $55 and change.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing

Excellent course

This was a great course for intermediate to advance golfers. Fairly open and forgiving with the added benefit of long holes to really challenge yourself. Course was in great shape, staff was amazing from start to finish. Couldn't have asked for a better experience.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Reviews 5
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing

Terrific Experience

Loved playing Greg Norman course. Great layout with plenty of bunkers and hazards but yet pretty forgiving. Firm greens, soft bunker sand and well manicured fairways. One minor “issue”: I was a single and got put with a threesome where 2 of them were VERY slow and probably 25+ indexes. Marshall gave us a slow play warning around the 8th hole. Problem was nearest group behind us was 2 holes back. Again, not a major issue but Marshall could have just given us the usual “how you guys doing?”. That said, definitely enjoyed the course.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 3
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Fun and challenging course!

Great Course!! Super fun and challenging greens were perfect and very fast, fairways were beautiful!! Staff was exceptional and friendly beer girl was friendly and always kept our ice chest full of adult beverages!!! Highly recommend going and playing this course!!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 24
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Always enjoyable

Played this course for the 6th time on annual trip to palm springs . Always in very good conditions considering the 100+ temps. Course is very challenging has multiple water holes. Highly recommend this course

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 15
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Great Track

Course was in fantastic shape, great layout, challenging. You can't spray the ball all over here and score well, so play target golf. Only knock on the course is the greenside bunkers need sand. I was in 2 and they're hard pan with barely any sand. Otherwise fantastic shape and quick smooth undulating greens!

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Amazing

Beat course I've played today amazing staff and course conditions. Great all the way around.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 44
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Previously Played

Well maintained course

The course was in great shape. Fairways and greens great. The staff was great and were very helpful.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

A real golf course!

In immaculate condition! Best course of the trip ahead of Indian Wells players, Mission Hills North and Cimarron Boulder.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 22
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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