PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1432 Reviews (1432)
5 Stars
859
4 Stars
367
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
93.3%
Recommend this course
1257 out of 1432 reviews
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4.8
60 Reviews (60)
5 Stars
48
4 Stars
10
3 Stars
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0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.3
StaffFriendliness
4.7
96.7%
Recommend this course
58 out of 60 reviews
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4.8
115 Reviews (115)
5 Stars
92
4 Stars
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3 Stars
4
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0
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.8
96.5%
Recommend this course
111 out of 115 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1432 Reviews (1432)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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4.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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Reviews 132
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I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played

Booked on GolfNow. Wind was blowing 40 mph when we arrived at course and we were told we couldn’t get a round credit unless course was closed. We played as we had paid for round and it was a challenge as at times we could not see 60 yards down fairway because of blowing dust.A learning experience!!

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
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Reviews 3
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
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I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played

Great course

Bring your A game , lots of sand traps , water and the greens are at 11 . 4 . Not easy to read , played this course 3 times in the last 2 weeks , Great shape ,

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 5
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 16
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

first time pga norman

The course was un great condition and the greens were fast art 11.1 rating.

Challenging and fair. Just need to have your A game to score well.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
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Reviews 1
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4.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing

Immaculate course

Such a wonderful day of golf. The layout is challenging, the course is in excellent condition. I’m a visitor to the valley and that was a day I’ll remember!! Hope to return and play it again.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 17
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 17
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Windy weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 132
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing

Very nice

Nice fairway. Nice and fast green. Everything is perfect.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

Great

Everything was perfect. We had a great time for a very reasonable price

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 16
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Pin Placement Predicament

Todays pin placements challenged the put and kept you thinking and rereading the break. It was a great test of mind and touch. We played with a couple from Wisconsin who we didn’t know and we had a blast seeing who could get the right read on the green. This course is one of our favorites and the staff is fantastic here. Such a beautiful course and a true treat to play. a bit backed up today but staff worked hard to keep it going. Much Appreciation. See you soon. m.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 11
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Very firm and slick greens!

I enjoy playing this course. It's challenging but the greens are almost too hard for a resort course. They are VERY firm and you simply cannot land a wedge shot on the green and hope it will stick. The ball will just roll off the green so you have to land the ball in front of the green. Also, I was a bit miffed that I wasn't told in advance that it was 'cart path' only due to recent overseeding. That should have been disclosed in advance and not surprised on me by the starter. Fortunately it didn't affect pace of play so all was good.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Great Course

Fairways and greens in excellent shape. Staff is very friendly. Carts feature GPS. Fun round of golf.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 22
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Just OK

Still on cart path only due to late overseeding. No distinction between fairway and rough. Grass too long on fairway. Greens ok, very fast but hard. Pace of play was ridiculous- over 5 hours for a moderately challenging course. Waiting after every shot. Obviously allowed too many golfers on for the day. Marshall kept saying they were trying to get the groups moving but it did not work. Highly disappointing!

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Difficulty Moderate
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