PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1435 Reviews (1435)
5 Stars
862
4 Stars
367
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
93.4%
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1260 out of 1435 reviews
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4.8
63 Reviews (63)
5 Stars
51
4 Stars
10
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0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
96.8%
Recommend this course
61 out of 63 reviews
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4.8
116 Reviews (116)
5 Stars
93
4 Stars
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3 Stars
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.8
96.6%
Recommend this course
112 out of 116 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1435 Reviews (1435)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 8
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
1.0
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Previously Played

Should not have been open

Normally this course is beautiful. It is a great layout and staff is fantastic. The course however now should not have been open it was fully scalped and no grass in sight the delay in opening the Stadium course should not have kept this open. I have never played a course in such poor condition.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 19
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Greens are fast and true

I loved putting these greens, like a pool table.

Aesthetically speaking the fairways were brown but that did not affect ball contact

What hurt my game was the extreme steepness of the sand traps around the greens. I’d play here again, but put a little more attention to course management of my targets to avoid sand and water.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 26
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

A good end to a nice day

I played the Greg Norma course in the afternoon, pace of play was decent, a little slow after a while.

I played as a single and was paired with two others. it made for a good round.

The course had just been scalped which helped with roll on my drive.

The course is well bunkered and the greens have subtle inclinations making it challenging to read at first.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Poor
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 12
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Course

Should have been advised beforehand that they hadn’t completed over seeding and fairways werebrown and dry. Also pace of play on back nine was brutal. Sometimes 3 groups on tee box.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Poor
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
2.0
First Time Playing

Very misleading

The course was rock hard, front nine took 2hrs and 35 minutes, on one of the par 5 there were 2 groups at the tee box, 2 groups on the fairway and 1 group on the green. How does that happen with nine minutes between tee times . Marshall came by and said we were right on time yet GPS said on the 4th hole we were already 22 minutes behind . We waited 5 to 10 minutes on every hole. They should pay the customer to play there.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 1
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Fair
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Poor
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 21
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Horrible condition

This has to be the worst conditions I have seen in a course in a long time. Not a patch of grass in the fairway and greens are harder than concrete. Pace of play was extremely slow!! Unlike anything I have seen from a PGA West course before.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 14
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Could have been good

Unfortunately we played the course which desperately needed re-seeding. All fairways were brown, thin (no grass whatsoever) and the greens seemed like they were plastic. If the course conditions were anywhere near what the pictures show, it could have been good. Also got stuck behind a couple of two-somes (how did two-somes get out on Thanksgiving) and then the Marshall said we should pass them. Only to get stuck behind two very slow groups who took anywhere from 5-10 practice swings; lined up 1 foot tap ins etc. $62 was way too much for the conditions but like I said, perhaps next Jan when we are back I will see what the conditions and price (value is important) are like and decide if it is worth it.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Difficulty Fairly Easy
Played On
Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Walked

Fun course

Really fun course with a variety of different holes. I will definitely play this again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
1.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Used cart

Do not go now. pay high price and they have scalped ALL the grass to the sand. BROWN all. It was not PGA west quality!!!!!

Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 11
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Norman Review

This course was disappointing due to their botched overseeding plan. Poor playing conditions were not communicated and thus very disappointing. I would rather have played another one of the great courses of the valley than waste my time here. I am sure it is a great track when in good shape but it really was not fair or expected of a course of this calibre and reputation not to warn people of the sub par conditions. Greens played well but the rest of the course was a bit of a goat track. If looking at this course you should wait until it gets back in shape.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 32
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 5
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
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