PGA WEST Greg Norman Course
About
The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.
No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."
"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."
Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.
Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.
What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.
Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.
"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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| Black | 72 | 7156 yards | 75.1 | 139 |
| Black (W) | 72 | 7156 yards | 81.9 | 145 |
| Blue | 72 | 6671 yards | 72.8 | 133 |
| Blue (W) | 72 | 6671 yards | 79.2 | 137 |
| Blue/White | 72 | 6427 yards | 71.5 | 128 |
| Blue/White (W) | 72 | 6427 yards | 77.7 | 134 |
| White | 72 | 6227 yards | 70.6 | 126 |
| White (W) | 72 | 6227 yards | 76.6 | 131 |
| Gold | 72 | 5751 yards | 68.4 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 72 | 5751 yards | 73.4 | 126 |
| Gold/Red | 72 | 5523 yards | 67.0 | 115 |
| Gold/Red (W) | 72 | 5523 yards | 72.4 | 123 |
| Red | 72 | 5297 yards | 65.6 | 112 |
| Red (W) | 72 | 5297 yards | 71.4 | 120 |
| Silver | 72 | 3978 yards | 59.7 | 98 |
| Silver (W) | 72 | 3978 yards | 63.1 | 108 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 | 409 | 526 | 477 | 140 | 380 | 481 | 181 | 617 | 359 | 3570 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 216 | 443 | 431 | 537 | 180 | 461 | 3586 | 7156 |
| Black/Blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 | 409 | 526 | 449 | 140 | 380 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 359 | 3448 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 537 | 161 | 440 | 3469 | 6917 |
| Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 | 379 | 499 | 449 | 137 | 349 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 339 | 3337 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 513 | 161 | 440 | 3334 | 6671 |
| Blue/White M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 | 352 | 499 | 419 | 137 | 349 | 420 | 144 | 561 | 339 | 3220 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 513 | 142 | 405 | 3207 | 6427 |
| White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 | 352 | 470 | 419 | 111 | 317 | 420 | 133 | 561 | 317 | 3100 | 370 | 272 | 507 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 491 | 142 | 405 | 3127 | 6227 |
| White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 | 329 | 470 | 384 | 111 | 317 | 395 | 133 | 531 | 317 | 2987 | 331 | 272 | 507 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 491 | 126 | 374 | 2965 | 5952 |
| Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 | 329 | 440 | 384 | 105 | 289 | 395 | 96 | 531 | 292 | 2861 | 331 | 262 | 457 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 476 | 126 | 374 | 2890 | 5751 |
| Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 | 329 | 440 | 350 | 105 | 289 | 370 | 96 | 509 | 292 | 2780 | 331 | 262 | 425 | 129 | 351 | 335 | 442 | 126 | 342 | 2743 | 5523 |
| Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 | 298 | 407 | 350 | 94 | 264 | 370 | 84 | 509 | 283 | 2659 | 305 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 337 | 335 | 442 | 102 | 342 | 2638 | 5297 |
| Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 | 298 | 407 | 262 | 94 | 264 | 266 | 84 | 376 | 283 | 2334 | 224 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 248 | 247 | 442 | 102 | 256 | 2294 | 4628 |
| Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 | 216 | 305 | 262 | 86 | 198 | 266 | 73 | 376 | 212 | 1994 | 224 | 170 | 313 | 107 | 248 | 247 | 324 | 95 | 256 | 1984 | 3978 |
| Handicap | 9 | 13 | 3 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 18 | 16 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 6 | 14 | 4 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 72 |
| Handicap (W) | 9 | 13 | 5 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 7 | 10 | 18 | 8 | 14 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 16 | 6 |
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Spectacular! Photo submitted by BuzzEng on 01/18/2026
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Windy day Photo submitted by 43VUiyb2K5WWxq1MWcZc on 10/19/2024
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Go Get’em Photo submitted by u000005458741 on 05/13/2024
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16th hole Photo submitted by Peter2461971 on 04/30/2024
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Par 3 4th Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Bunker at 14 Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Photo submitted by golferchic78 on 11/13/2021
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13th hole — land it short of the pin! Photo submitted by u314161211354 on 03/09/2021
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Perfect day Photo submitted by u119001050 on 11/15/2020
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View from 8th tee box Photo submitted by Jennifer8804683 on 11/26/2019
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The end of a perfect day Photo submitted by kenstrati on 01/15/2018
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Should not have been open
Normally this course is beautiful. It is a great layout and staff is fantastic. The course however now should not have been open it was fully scalped and no grass in sight the delay in opening the Stadium course should not have kept this open. I have never played a course in such poor condition.
Greens are fast and true
I loved putting these greens, like a pool table.
Aesthetically speaking the fairways were brown but that did not affect ball contact
What hurt my game was the extreme steepness of the sand traps around the greens. I’d play here again, but put a little more attention to course management of my targets to avoid sand and water.
A good end to a nice day
I played the Greg Norma course in the afternoon, pace of play was decent, a little slow after a while.
I played as a single and was paired with two others. it made for a good round.
The course had just been scalped which helped with roll on my drive.
The course is well bunkered and the greens have subtle inclinations making it challenging to read at first.
Course
Should have been advised beforehand that they hadn’t completed over seeding and fairways werebrown and dry. Also pace of play on back nine was brutal. Sometimes 3 groups on tee box.
Very misleading
The course was rock hard, front nine took 2hrs and 35 minutes, on one of the par 5 there were 2 groups at the tee box, 2 groups on the fairway and 1 group on the green. How does that happen with nine minutes between tee times . Marshall came by and said we were right on time yet GPS said on the 4th hole we were already 22 minutes behind . We waited 5 to 10 minutes on every hole. They should pay the customer to play there.
Horrible condition
This has to be the worst conditions I have seen in a course in a long time. Not a patch of grass in the fairway and greens are harder than concrete. Pace of play was extremely slow!! Unlike anything I have seen from a PGA West course before.
Could have been good
Unfortunately we played the course which desperately needed re-seeding. All fairways were brown, thin (no grass whatsoever) and the greens seemed like they were plastic. If the course conditions were anywhere near what the pictures show, it could have been good. Also got stuck behind a couple of two-somes (how did two-somes get out on Thanksgiving) and then the Marshall said we should pass them. Only to get stuck behind two very slow groups who took anywhere from 5-10 practice swings; lined up 1 foot tap ins etc. $62 was way too much for the conditions but like I said, perhaps next Jan when we are back I will see what the conditions and price (value is important) are like and decide if it is worth it.
Fun course
Really fun course with a variety of different holes. I will definitely play this again.
Norman Review
This course was disappointing due to their botched overseeding plan. Poor playing conditions were not communicated and thus very disappointing. I would rather have played another one of the great courses of the valley than waste my time here. I am sure it is a great track when in good shape but it really was not fair or expected of a course of this calibre and reputation not to warn people of the sub par conditions. Greens played well but the rest of the course was a bit of a goat track. If looking at this course you should wait until it gets back in shape.
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