PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1443 Reviews (1443)
5 Stars
866
4 Stars
371
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.4
93.2%
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4.7
71 Reviews (71)
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55
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.8%
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4.7
117 Reviews (117)
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4 Stars
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.7%
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112 out of 117 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1443 Reviews (1443)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Conditions Poor
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Average
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 35
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Beautiful Desert Course

Played with my wife and another couple that lived at PGA West and were very helpful in navigating the course. Though about 30% overpriced, we really enjoyed the course. Tee lengths are available for all levels of golfers (including juniors and seniors) which every course should have! Toughest part of the course were greens, which were cut a bit too short and dried out---hard to read, hard to putt. Would certainly play again...in cooler temps (104 today) and at a more reasonable price.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Greens in poor condition— tractor marks, sand, weeds and patches of dried grass and rock-hard greens

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Playable Golf Course

Staff was friendly and accommodating. The layout is fantastic. The course was in great shape for this time of year. 10/6/20. Would definitely play it again.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Decent

Played on October 6. I am a +3 handicap just for a measurement of where this review is coming from....

Tee boxes, fairways are in excellent condition. No complaints on that whatsoever.

As for the greens: Paying $100+ for a round of golf should guarantee you great, if not, elite, greens. Today’s experience was worse than your local muni in the middle of nowhere. If I had to take a legitimate guess at the green speeds I would place them around a 7.5 on the stimp. Each green was a completely different speed than the previous hole. This makes scoring extremely difficult. I don’t know if it is the time of year or what the deal is with why the quality of the greens was so poor.

At the end of the day, the course was pretty vanilla but still had some character to it. If the greens were nice this would be the spot to play everyday.

If I had one recommendation to the pro shop, it would be to lower the green fees to $50 with the current condition of the greens, but from a business standpoint I can’t argue with knowing people will pay $100+ for a PGA West course regardless of condition.

Hoping for a better experience next time around.

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Green left to die

It sucks that this course can’t ever keep a Super that has even got a clue on green management. They were fantastic two years ago at this time, but ever since the Super was let go because he just knew too much on how to care for greens, the GM refuses to get his stuff together and find someone that’s worth a toot. You can have bad tees, bad fairways, bad bunkers, bad everything, but if the greens roll like they should, the complaints are minimal. This course should be avoided until the overseed comes. It certainly is not worth $100+. Maybe it will be in January.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

LOVELY COURSE

Always a pleasure playing here.

Greens not as consistent in terms of speed

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 16
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

True Desert Course

Great layout, hit with confidence and you will be rewarded if it’s straight. Some real narrow fairways. A lot of hard pan dirt around fairways.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 77
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Course in poor condition

I've played this course serval times and it was always in good shape. The course today was in poor condition. Greens were inconsistent, in poor playing condition. Net/net I was very dissatisfied with the conditions and overall golf experience today.

Conditions Poor
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 18
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Great Day

The course is in good shape, pace of play was good, had a great day the short game was working good today so I scored good, I will play this course again !!!!

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Nice

Course could’ve been in a little better condition but it was a little dry due to the summertime heat

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Day

Another great day on a great course the Norman course is challenging but fair.. fairways are wide but missing them puts you on the defensive.. greens are great with a lot of bunkering you need to be in the right spot on them but they roll very true.

This course will make you think but good shots are rewarded and bad shots penalize which is all you can ask

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 18
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Super slow pace and bad greens and no masks

2nd time playing. No marshal to help get any pace of place accomplished. Been stuck behind a terrible 4 some all day. Writing this review While waiting on 12th hole

Greens in terrible condition. Most Staff not wearing Masks.

Won’t be back again

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Challenging course for beginners.

Played this course the day after the Stadium course so this may be biasing the rating. This is a good course for a beginner who wants to be challenged. The course isn’t in as good of a shape as the Stadium course, but that may be part of the landscaping vision. The restaurant food was not the greatest but the bar cart was responsive and available.

.Piece of pie was very good but we were playing at 1 PM on a 100° day. Despite these critiques I did have fun and enjoyed this course.

Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 18
Handicap Don't know
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

great day at Greg's!

Awesome course to play in the summer with hardly anyone around and great weather. Perfect!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
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