PGA WEST Greg Norman Course
About
The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.
No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."
"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."
Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.
Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.
What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.
Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.
"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."
| Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black | 72 | 7156 yards | 75.1 | 139 |
| Black (W) | 72 | 7156 yards | 81.9 | 145 |
| Blue | 72 | 6671 yards | 72.8 | 133 |
| Blue (W) | 72 | 6671 yards | 79.2 | 137 |
| Blue/White | 72 | 6427 yards | 71.5 | 128 |
| Blue/White (W) | 72 | 6427 yards | 77.7 | 134 |
| White | 72 | 6227 yards | 70.6 | 126 |
| White (W) | 72 | 6227 yards | 76.6 | 131 |
| Gold | 72 | 5751 yards | 68.4 | 120 |
| Gold (W) | 72 | 5751 yards | 73.4 | 126 |
| Gold/Red | 72 | 5523 yards | 67.0 | 115 |
| Gold/Red (W) | 72 | 5523 yards | 72.4 | 123 |
| Red | 72 | 5297 yards | 65.6 | 112 |
| Red (W) | 72 | 5297 yards | 71.4 | 120 |
| Silver | 72 | 3978 yards | 59.7 | 98 |
| Silver (W) | 72 | 3978 yards | 63.1 | 108 |
| Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 | 409 | 526 | 477 | 140 | 380 | 481 | 181 | 617 | 359 | 3570 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 216 | 443 | 431 | 537 | 180 | 461 | 3586 | 7156 |
| Black/Blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 | 409 | 526 | 449 | 140 | 380 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 359 | 3448 | 415 | 337 | 566 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 537 | 161 | 440 | 3469 | 6917 |
| Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 | 379 | 499 | 449 | 137 | 349 | 450 | 144 | 591 | 339 | 3337 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 192 | 415 | 406 | 513 | 161 | 440 | 3334 | 6671 |
| Blue/White M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 | 352 | 499 | 419 | 137 | 349 | 420 | 144 | 561 | 339 | 3220 | 384 | 302 | 521 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 513 | 142 | 405 | 3207 | 6427 |
| White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 | 352 | 470 | 419 | 111 | 317 | 420 | 133 | 561 | 317 | 3100 | 370 | 272 | 507 | 171 | 386 | 383 | 491 | 142 | 405 | 3127 | 6227 |
| White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 | 329 | 470 | 384 | 111 | 317 | 395 | 133 | 531 | 317 | 2987 | 331 | 272 | 507 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 491 | 126 | 374 | 2965 | 5952 |
| Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 | 329 | 440 | 384 | 105 | 289 | 395 | 96 | 531 | 292 | 2861 | 331 | 262 | 457 | 155 | 351 | 358 | 476 | 126 | 374 | 2890 | 5751 |
| Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 | 329 | 440 | 350 | 105 | 289 | 370 | 96 | 509 | 292 | 2780 | 331 | 262 | 425 | 129 | 351 | 335 | 442 | 126 | 342 | 2743 | 5523 |
| Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 | 298 | 407 | 350 | 94 | 264 | 370 | 84 | 509 | 283 | 2659 | 305 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 337 | 335 | 442 | 102 | 342 | 2638 | 5297 |
| Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 | 298 | 407 | 262 | 94 | 264 | 266 | 84 | 376 | 283 | 2334 | 224 | 221 | 425 | 129 | 248 | 247 | 442 | 102 | 256 | 2294 | 4628 |
| Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 | 216 | 305 | 262 | 86 | 198 | 266 | 73 | 376 | 212 | 1994 | 224 | 170 | 313 | 107 | 248 | 247 | 324 | 95 | 256 | 1984 | 3978 |
| Handicap | 9 | 13 | 3 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 5 | 7 | 8 | 18 | 16 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 6 | 14 | 4 | |||
| Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 36 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 36 | 72 |
| Handicap (W) | 9 | 13 | 5 | 17 | 11 | 1 | 15 | 3 | 7 | 10 | 18 | 8 | 14 | 12 | 2 | 4 | 16 | 6 |
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Spectacular! Photo submitted by BuzzEng on 01/18/2026
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Windy day Photo submitted by 43VUiyb2K5WWxq1MWcZc on 10/19/2024
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Go Get’em Photo submitted by u000005458741 on 05/13/2024
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16th hole Photo submitted by Peter2461971 on 04/30/2024
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Par 3 4th Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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Bunker at 14 Photo submitted by AroundtheHorn on 06/29/2022
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13th hole — land it short of the pin! Photo submitted by u314161211354 on 03/09/2021
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Perfect day Photo submitted by u119001050 on 11/15/2020
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View from 8th tee box Photo submitted by Jennifer8804683 on 11/26/2019
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The end of a perfect day Photo submitted by kenstrati on 01/15/2018
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Beautiful Desert Course
Played with my wife and another couple that lived at PGA West and were very helpful in navigating the course. Though about 30% overpriced, we really enjoyed the course. Tee lengths are available for all levels of golfers (including juniors and seniors) which every course should have! Toughest part of the course were greens, which were cut a bit too short and dried out---hard to read, hard to putt. Would certainly play again...in cooler temps (104 today) and at a more reasonable price.
Greens in poor condition— tractor marks, sand, weeds and patches of dried grass and rock-hard greens
Playable Golf Course
Staff was friendly and accommodating. The layout is fantastic. The course was in great shape for this time of year. 10/6/20. Would definitely play it again.
Decent
Played on October 6. I am a +3 handicap just for a measurement of where this review is coming from....
Tee boxes, fairways are in excellent condition. No complaints on that whatsoever.
As for the greens: Paying $100+ for a round of golf should guarantee you great, if not, elite, greens. Today’s experience was worse than your local muni in the middle of nowhere. If I had to take a legitimate guess at the green speeds I would place them around a 7.5 on the stimp. Each green was a completely different speed than the previous hole. This makes scoring extremely difficult. I don’t know if it is the time of year or what the deal is with why the quality of the greens was so poor.
At the end of the day, the course was pretty vanilla but still had some character to it. If the greens were nice this would be the spot to play everyday.
If I had one recommendation to the pro shop, it would be to lower the green fees to $50 with the current condition of the greens, but from a business standpoint I can’t argue with knowing people will pay $100+ for a PGA West course regardless of condition.
Hoping for a better experience next time around.
Green left to die
It sucks that this course can’t ever keep a Super that has even got a clue on green management. They were fantastic two years ago at this time, but ever since the Super was let go because he just knew too much on how to care for greens, the GM refuses to get his stuff together and find someone that’s worth a toot. You can have bad tees, bad fairways, bad bunkers, bad everything, but if the greens roll like they should, the complaints are minimal. This course should be avoided until the overseed comes. It certainly is not worth $100+. Maybe it will be in January.
LOVELY COURSE
Always a pleasure playing here.
Greens not as consistent in terms of speed
True Desert Course
Great layout, hit with confidence and you will be rewarded if it’s straight. Some real narrow fairways. A lot of hard pan dirt around fairways.
Course in poor condition
I've played this course serval times and it was always in good shape. The course today was in poor condition. Greens were inconsistent, in poor playing condition. Net/net I was very dissatisfied with the conditions and overall golf experience today.
Great Day
The course is in good shape, pace of play was good, had a great day the short game was working good today so I scored good, I will play this course again !!!!
Great Day
Another great day on a great course the Norman course is challenging but fair.. fairways are wide but missing them puts you on the defensive.. greens are great with a lot of bunkering you need to be in the right spot on them but they roll very true.
This course will make you think but good shots are rewarded and bad shots penalize which is all you can ask
Super slow pace and bad greens and no masks
2nd time playing. No marshal to help get any pace of place accomplished. Been stuck behind a terrible 4 some all day. Writing this review While waiting on 12th hole
Greens in terrible condition. Most Staff not wearing Masks.
Won’t be back again
Challenging course for beginners.
Played this course the day after the Stadium course so this may be biasing the rating. This is a good course for a beginner who wants to be challenged. The course isn’t in as good of a shape as the Stadium course, but that may be part of the landscaping vision. The restaurant food was not the greatest but the bar cart was responsive and available.
.Piece of pie was very good but we were playing at 1 PM on a 100° day. Despite these critiques I did have fun and enjoyed this course.
great day at Greg's!
Awesome course to play in the summer with hardly anyone around and great weather. Perfect!
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