PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1443 Reviews (1443)
5 Stars
866
4 Stars
371
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.4
93.2%
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1267 out of 1443 reviews
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4.7
71 Reviews (71)
5 Stars
55
4 Stars
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.8%
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68 out of 71 reviews
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4.7
117 Reviews (117)
5 Stars
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4 Stars
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3 Stars
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.7%
Recommend this course
112 out of 117 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1443 Reviews (1443)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Played On
Reviews 14
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
1.0
Previously Played

Terrible

I’ve played this course in the past, but this time it was absolutely terrible! The greens were so bad it was ridiculous, the fairways had so many areas of wet ground that when I hit a shot it was like hitting after a huge rain storm! I couldn’t believe how much they charge to play this place and the greens were the worst I’ve ever seen! I will not play this course again until it’s in good shape! Don’t waste your money there are plenty of courses around that are in tip top shape!

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Good
Friendliness Poor
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 36
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 21
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Shape

We live this course and it’s in great shape for this time of year!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Fantastic

My new wife and I went to play while on our honeymoon and the staff there was so welcoming! The covid regulations brought up the fact we are newly married and the extremely friendly starter proceeded to send the drink cart to us multiple times for free drinks on the house! The course is narrow but playable. We had a great round!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Hospitality for lus

Wow. My husband and I decided to get one more round in before we headed home. Luckily grabbed an 8:30 tee time and ended up playing with such wonderful members.

What a beautiful place to play golf, the staff was very thoughtful Andy accommodating

We would play there tomorrow I’d we could stay longer.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Home Run

Every aspect of this course is World Class.

Coming off their over-seeding, course was in stellar condition. Will only get better as season moves along.

I really enjoy the name recognition, the lack of nickel & diming ie water, tees added to golf cart.

A winning team!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 8
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Brutally Slow Round

Played at 12:30 on Saturday afternoon. Deceptively tight layout with waste areas on either side of most fairways. They are letting the course grow in for the season, so was cart path only. Fairways and greens are currently being cut long, so not much roll on either.

Round was brutally slow with as many golfers as possible stuffed into the course. 4 hr 15 min in, we had only finished 15 holes and darkness settled in. Really ruined a very nice day. Make sure you get a morning tee time to avoid this situation.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 56
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Nice Course

The course had just been open 2 days after overseeding. It was in good shape. Greens were a bit slow and bumpy as might be expected after overseeding

Pace of play was on the slow side even for cart path only.

Overall good course and we'll be back

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Fair
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

October round

The greens were sanded and in terrible shape for the $100 bucks we paid. It was 105 degrees that day and no coolers on the carts and we only saw cart girl one time on the 3rd hole which made the round miserable. We couldn't wait to be done!

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 8
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Solid

Staff are always very welcoming some even remembering your name.

Course layout is terrific, we played last day prior to over seeding yet greens were in great shape

Driving range is a winner with an all grass experience and no mats.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 19
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Needs help

Tough layout but that is expected with a PGA West course. Difficult enough with the crowned greens but especially tough when greens are as dried out as they are now. Grass around greens very thin too so tough to get your club under the ball.

I think they are about to start overseed which is why it is so dried out.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
2.0
Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 47
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Lots of sand!

Nice course worth the price. Fairway bunkers are ridiculous......some require SW to get out of. Excellent pace of play. Greens are very true and fairways are a little thin (normal this time of year).

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 50
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Cost

This course does not warrant a 129 dollar fee for play given current conditions. Particularly the greens.

I stopped playing after 10 holes!

Conditions Poor
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Average
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 50
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
1.0
Previously Played

Don’t Bother

Not a 129 dollar course right now. A total waste of my time.

Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
Played On
Reviews 1
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Fair
Value Poor
Layout Fair
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Fair
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Not that great

Green's were in terrible shape for the $100.00 bucks green fees. The cart girl we only saw one time on 3rd hole. It was 105 degrees and no water on course, so you would think you would see cart girl several times at least.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Played On
Reviews 11
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Good Not Great

We all know this was an exceptionally hot summer . That being said the course is in ok condition but not as good as other public courses in the same area which I am pretty sure have the same weather as they are within three miles . Covid has prevented players from raking traps so why does it seem that the course has stopped maintaining them . That is something regardless of the weather unless we are talking about too much rain should be good no weeds or grass in the traps . Maybe there is a financial pinch just get the feeling they are scaling back on the maintenance . This is a year round resort October things should be pretty good . I have played the course a few times a year for 7 years this is the roughest I have seen it . Still enjoyable still respectable but not what it should be . If Greg Norman came to see his course he would be pretty disappointed .

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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