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PGA WEST Greg Norman Course

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About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Satellite Layout
Tees
Tee Par Length Rating Slope
Black 72 7156 yards 75.1 139
Black (W) 72 7156 yards 81.9 145
Blue 72 6671 yards 72.8 133
Blue (W) 72 6671 yards 79.2 137
Blue/White 72 6427 yards 71.5 128
Blue/White (W) 72 6427 yards 77.7 134
White 72 6227 yards 70.6 126
White (W) 72 6227 yards 76.6 131
Gold 72 5751 yards 68.4 120
Gold (W) 72 5751 yards 73.4 126
Gold/Red 72 5523 yards 67.0 115
Gold/Red (W) 72 5523 yards 72.4 123
Red 72 5297 yards 65.6 112
Red (W) 72 5297 yards 71.4 120
Silver 72 3978 yards 59.7 98
Silver (W) 72 3978 yards 63.1 108
Track Rounds
Scorecard
Scorecard for Greg Norman
Metrics:
Hole 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Out 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 In Total
Black M: 74.6/136 W: 81.5/144 409 526 477 140 380 481 181 617 359 3570 415 337 566 216 443 431 537 180 461 3586 7156
Black/Blue M: 73.3/133 W: 80.1/141 409 526 449 140 380 450 144 591 359 3448 415 337 566 192 415 406 537 161 440 3469 6917
Blue M: 72.0/130 W: 78.8/138 379 499 449 137 349 450 144 591 339 3337 384 302 521 192 415 406 513 161 440 3334 6671
Blue/White M: 70.8/127 W: 77.3/135 352 499 419 137 349 420 144 561 339 3220 384 302 521 171 386 383 513 142 405 3207 6427
White M: 70.0/124 W: 76.0/132 352 470 419 111 317 420 133 561 317 3100 370 272 507 171 386 383 491 142 405 3127 6227
White/Gold M: 68.5/120 W: 74.5/128 329 470 384 111 317 395 133 531 317 2987 331 272 507 155 351 358 491 126 374 2965 5952
Gold M: 67.4/117 W: 73.3/125 329 440 384 105 289 395 96 531 292 2861 331 262 457 155 351 358 476 126 374 2890 5751
Gold/Red M: 66.1/114 W: 72.0/122 329 440 350 105 289 370 96 509 292 2780 331 262 425 129 351 335 442 126 342 2743 5523
Red M: 65.0/111 W: 70.9/119 298 407 350 94 264 370 84 509 283 2659 305 221 425 129 337 335 442 102 342 2638 5297
Red/Silver M: 61.9/102 W: 67.0/110 298 407 262 94 264 266 84 376 283 2334 224 221 425 129 248 247 442 102 256 2294 4628
Silver M: 58.9/94 W: 63.4/101 216 305 262 86 198 266 73 376 212 1994 224 170 313 107 248 247 324 95 256 1984 3978
Handicap 9 13 3 17 11 1 15 5 7 8 18 16 2 10 12 6 14 4
Par 4 5 4 3 4 4 3 5 4 36 4 4 5 3 4 4 5 3 4 36 72
Handicap (W) 9 13 5 17 11 1 15 3 7 10 18 8 14 12 2 4 16 6

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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u000008024283
Played On
Reviews 16
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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cellpage
Played On
Reviews 33
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Mashalls

Mashalls should spend more time moving the slow groups along than telling players waiting in the fairways‘it’s going to be dark soon’.

Rob in the clubhouse was very helpful. Overall very good experience.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Jwolosin
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Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

Beautiful course

It has been years since I played this course but I absolutely enjoyed my round yesterday. The fairways were immaculate, the greens were in great shape but firm, the bunkers were in great shape, and the layout was beautiful. The course is very forgiving as long as you stay on the well manicured fairways. The Practice Facility likewise was in great shape with plenty of thick grass. My only complaint about the course is that the starter was very rude. I'm not sure what his problem was. Truly, he needs a lesson in etiquette. The Rangers were very nice and cordial. Everyone else was as well. Would play again in a heartbeat!

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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u314164812441
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Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
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I Recommend This Course
4.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
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cellpage
Played On
Reviews 33
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

One odd thing

Great course but 1 thing I didn’t understand; we had 2 guys in a cart and 2 singles in separate carts (1 was only playing 9) . Starter and rangers only allowed 2 of the 3 carts in the fairways at a time. Have not seen that before.

Other than that oddity, great course. Rob in the pro shop was very helpful.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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u7929493
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Reviews 6
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
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I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Average
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kimsang1017
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Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
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I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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perhansen
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Reviews 7
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
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u275895548
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Reviews 4
Skill Advanced
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I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
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Reviews 1
2.0
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Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Poor
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mike588
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Reviews 8
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Skill Intermediate
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I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
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golfeers
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Reviews 57
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

fun round

played with two members and their friend, great company, they were a big help since i hadn't played the course before. it was hard to miss a fairway when the fairway cut went wall to wall, no rough. if you missed the fairway good luck, dessert and bushes every where. the greens were beautiful, not to many ball marks to fix. bunkers were fine, great practice facility. not sure i ever found a signature hole.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
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dlreno11
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
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u314159786358
Played On
Reviews 9
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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u314163630161
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Reviews 14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great Course

We love the GN. Wish the patio and food service lasted long enough to gather after an afternoon round . Still love the course .

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
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Reviews 1
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
4.0
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

double charge

I booked and payed online on the Golf Now web site for $189.00. On Monday the 15th

the course also charged my credit card $189.00. I am due a refund of $189.00.

Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Average
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
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padbury
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Reviews 10
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Played affernoon,1;30 almost no one else playing so finshed 18 holes by 5pm. Conditions good, weather good.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
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u672908921
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Reviews 1
Handicap 20-24
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

Slow but fun round

Started very slow as threesome ahead of me took way too long on every drive and putt but eventually they left and the marshall got me hooked up with the team ahead of them and the rest of the round was smooth sailing. The fairways traps and water were all in impeccable conditions and the staff was super-nice. One of my alltime favorite tracks.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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barbrar
Played On
Reviews 17
Handicap 25+
Skill Beginner
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Fair
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Reviews 17
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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