PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)
5 Stars
874
4 Stars
373
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.3
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
92.8%
Recommend this course
1277 out of 1453 reviews
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4.8
61 Reviews (61)
5 Stars
49
4 Stars
11
3 Stars
1
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.5
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
96.7%
Recommend this course
59 out of 61 reviews
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4.7
93 Reviews (93)
5 Stars
70
4 Stars
19
3 Stars
4
2 Stars
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Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
94.6%
Recommend this course
88 out of 93 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Great value

The starter Marty was super nice and friendly and so was marshal James, Both these guys are awesome!!!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 148
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 250 Contributor

Great place to play

Course was in great condition and fun to play. Best greens we played all week!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 16
Handicap 10-14
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Hot weather
Used cart

Greg Norman in the heat

Suggest playing early as it gets warm.played at 7 am

Fast greens wow

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 2
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Don’t bother playing there

The overall quality of the course was sub-standard. Greens were very slow and fairways as well as tee boxes were burnt and/or worn out.

Pace of play and friendliness of the staff were top.

We would recommend that you play other courses in the area which were much better.

These were the slowest greens we played in the four weeks we spent in California

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 12
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Fun day

Great day overall had a slow group in front of us killing the pace of play until we skipped the 9th hole to get in front of them per Marshall request. After that it was smooth sailing. These greens will humble you quickly so hit the putting greens before the round all in all a must play

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

What a beautiful place and exceptional greens.

Turned up and the staff are all incredibly friendly. As it was middle of the day I was off on my own but caught the group in front by the 2nd hole and they invited me to join on the 3rd as they were held up by 3 groups in front of them!! Incredibly friendly members and had a good chat the whole way round. Would have been good to get through the 4 ball holding up everyone else, but the company and course was phenomenal so didn’t put a dampener on the day. Shame the bar closed at 4:30 as there was a few of us in there enjoying a beer afterwards.

Greens were lightning and true, fairways were immaculate and staff were all friendly. Clubhouse and practice facilities are all very well setup!!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 6
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 21
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 16
Handicap 5-9
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Excellent Greens

Tee boxes were in generally good shape, some bare spots. The fairways can be patchy and very firm on some holes, ie you're not really taking a divot. The layout is great. The course feels like it plays longer due to some of the pinched fairway landings for the tee shot. The greens, however, were EXCELLENT. By far the best greens I have putted on in the Palm Desert area, definitely the best of the PGA West public courses. They were pretty firm, hard to find your pitch marks....and rolled very fast and true. Hardly any bouncing. The greens alone are worth the round. Pace of play was decent for a late morning weekend round, 4.5 hours, with moderate waiting.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 3
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 23
Handicap 25+
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

had a wonderful time

It was our first time playing this course...it is some what challenging...the course layout is great, love the water and even the bunkers...some holes have at least 15 bunkers...but it was fun. We loved it.

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
First Time Playing

Fast pace, even faster greens!!!

First time here, employees were very friendly and welcoming. Beautiful clubhouse and practice facility. Starter gave some pointers. Pace of play was 4hrs and some change on Memorial day. Water and ice machine. Carts were clean and comfy, very nice gps as well. Course had maybe, 1 brown spot. Course was immaculate. Oh yeah, 50bucks at 1pm, couldn’t beat that with a baseball bat! Thanks to everyone who is employed here, for a great time!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 11
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Beautiful course

The course is beautiful. A few of the holes need better directions to follow in a cart to get to them. Overall the course was very nice and for the most part player friendly.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Good
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 223
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Top 500 Contributor
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Amenities Excellent
Played On
Reviews 3
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Another great day!

Only reason we rated the off course amenities is because it’s always closed

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Fair
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Norman Course PGA West

Course was in decent shape. Several Fairways were starting to get thin and burned out. Greens were very good rolling around 11 and rolling true. Course layout was good, a few holes look the same as others. Would play this course again

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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