PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1442 Reviews (1442)
5 Stars
865
4 Stars
371
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
93.0%
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1266 out of 1442 reviews
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4.7
70 Reviews (70)
5 Stars
54
4 Stars
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.7%
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67 out of 70 reviews
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4.7
118 Reviews (118)
5 Stars
91
4 Stars
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3 Stars
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Conditions
4.8
Value
4.5
Layout
4.8
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
95.8%
Recommend this course
113 out of 118 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1442 Reviews (1442)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 199
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Tough Course

Course is in terrific shape, staff outstanding. Many tough holes and plenty of sand. Just wasn't expecting 100 degrees in April!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
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Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
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Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
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Reviews 14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

Very Nice

The Norman course at PGA West, personally my favorite of the public courses was in wonderful condition, but the greens were incredibly firm. Tee boxes and fairways were lush and green. The greens however were very fast and very hard. Like cart path hard practically. I know they are new and still getting their legs, but time and time again well struck approaches would not hold the greens. I’m sure in due time they will get them dialed in though.

Pace of play was fantastic. Playing Saturday afternoon of the Coachella Music Fest most likely kept the others away. Lucky us, because we had the whole place to ourselves and had a fabulous time. Highly recommend.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
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Reviews 1
3.0
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Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
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Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
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Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 5
I Recommend This Course
5.0
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Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Beautiful course

I would play this one again. Water got me a couple of times. Check your on board GPS before you play each hole.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
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Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Good course bad directions

Enjoyed the course. More playable after recent renovations. Directions from map it took us to private course clubhouse in PGA West. Frustrating waste of 15-20 minutes.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Thought greens to putt on.

Love the GPS with Bluetooth. Had problem controlling the volume.

Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
2.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Impossibly firm greens

Played this course 3 years ago. Was superb. This time greens have been relaid and super firm and impossible to hold the ball. Chipping a lottery. Fairways a bit too lush. Like playing out if semi rough. Too much sand in bunkers. Ball plugged on face of very steep bunker. Shame. Course layout and overall facilities great.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 19
Handicap 10-14
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Perfect weather
Used cart

Not up to Par

First time playing this course. I have played other PGA West courses and they have been excellent. The golf shop staff was just fine. Friendly, welcoming, a delight to see. The starter was the opposite. He was very rude, not interested in giving us any course hints, even after we told him we have not played there before. Just told us to hurry up as he had 50 other golfers waiting to play. Course was OK, but rough was not maintained for PGA standards. Greens were slow, rock hard, and again, not up to PGA standards (we played Nicklaus course the next day, and it was in fabulous condition). Play other PGA courses when in the area.

Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Good
Friendliness Fair
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Average
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Average
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart

great course

great course and top notch staff. staff was friendly and helpful. way to go with all of the rounds you guys get.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Try again later

This course was decently laid out. Unfortunately it is totally unfair presently. The recently redone greens are WAY too firm: impossible to hold. BTW: I’m a 4 and the ball high and with spin. Next year after they are able to aerate the new greens … it might be playable.

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 22
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Played On
Reviews 2
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Garbage Greens

Nice layout but the greens are not grown in and are like concrete. Green fees much too high for those green conditions

Conditions Fair
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Average
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 6
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

always good

Have played this course many times over the years. always fun. good shape and good pace of play. thanks.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 9
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a month
2.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Not a good option

The pace of play was very slow, never saw the refreshment cart, low caliber players and the pro shop and restaurant were closed at 5:30!

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Poor
Amenities Poor
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