PGA West Greg Norman Course: #17
A view from tee #17 at PGA West Greg Norman Course
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4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)
5 Stars
874
4 Stars
373
3 Stars
108
2 Stars
62
1 Stars
36
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.3
Layout
4.7
Friendliness
4.7
Pace
4.4
Amenities
4.3
92.8%
Recommend this course
1277 out of 1453 reviews
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4.8
60 Reviews (60)
5 Stars
48
4 Stars
11
3 Stars
1
2 Stars
0
1 Stars
0
Conditions
4.7
Value
4.5
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.6
Amenities
4.5
StaffFriendliness
4.7
96.7%
Recommend this course
58 out of 60 reviews
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4.7
93 Reviews (93)
5 Stars
70
4 Stars
19
3 Stars
4
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1 Stars
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Conditions
4.7
Value
4.4
Layout
4.7
Pace
4.5
Amenities
4.4
StaffFriendliness
4.7
94.6%
Recommend this course
88 out of 93 reviews
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Course Highlights
Course conditions consistently impress, with carpet-like fairways, immaculate bunkers, and quick true-rolling greens that rival top-tier courses. Attentive staff from the bag team to the starter deliver a welcoming, efficiently run round from start to finish.
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PGA West - Greg Norman Golf Course

About

Holes 18
Type Public/Resort
Par 72
Length 7156 yards
Slope 139
Rating 75.1

The Shark's turned in what's widely regarded as the second-toughest course at PGA WEST - Greg Norman Course in La Quinta.

No small feat considering the developers of the neighboring TPC Stadium ordered Pete Dye to make it, "the hardest damn golf course in the world."

"There's a difference," said Jack Guevera, a golfer who's played both. "You might think you have it easy if you play the Norman after the Stadium .... But probably not."

Here's the difference: Dye tries to kill you at TPC Stadium. Norman only wants to beat you to a pulp.

Not that pummeling does not have its highlights. Norman's 216-yard, par-3 13th is the kind of hole that seizes your attention and lingers in memory after the round.

What little fairway there is curves around toward a man-made lake. It is also tilted down on a sharp angle to the water, giving the golfer the effect of hitting along a ledge.

Each shot is a tap dance here. You could not even get odds in Vegas on your chances of avoiding all of the deep, slanted bunkers that squeeze the mini fairway even tighter.

"Greg Norman wants you to choke," TravelGolf.com West Coast Bureau Chief Chris Baldwin said. "The supremely-talented, enthrallingly-entertaining golfer cursed to be forever remembered for his excruciating collapses wants the average hacker to experience just a taste of this misery."

Course Details

Year Built 1999
Fairways Tiftdwarf Bermuda Grass
Greens Bermuda Grass
Golf Season Year round
Architect Greg Norman (1999) Matthew Dusenberry (1999) Tad Burnett (1999)

Rentals/Services

Carts Yes
GPS No
Clubs Yes

Practice/Instruction

Driving Range Yes
Golf School/Academy Yes
Teaching Pro Yes
Pitching/Chipping Area Yes
Putting Green Yes
Practice Hole Yes

Policies

Credit Cards Accepted Visa, MC, AMEX, Discover
Metal Spikes Allowed No
Dress code No denim, collared shirt and bermuda shorts required.

Available Facilities

Clubhouse, Meeting Facilities, Banquet Facilities

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Reviews

4.6
1453 Reviews (1453)

What Golfers Are Saying

The 19th Hole is Great For:
Drinks 28
Patio Dining 26
19th Hole Scenic Views 14
Course Challenges Include:
Bunkers 67
Water Hazards 41
Undulating Greens 38
This course/club is great for:
Advanced Golfers 48
A Weekend Splurge 40
Wildlife/ Scenic Views 31
This Course's Location is:
Worth the Drive 38
Convenient to the City 22
At a Resort 19

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Reviews 27
Handicap 0-4
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

Great player Assistant / starter Alan

Played the course on a hot June afternoon as a single. Starter named Alan gave me the low down on all the changes to the course since last time I played Norman course (very helpful). Followed a single who went out 10 minutes before me. I ran into a slowdown on the 5th hole where there was four foursomes of friends playing. Alan anticipated this slowdown and waiting on the 5th hole and escorted the single ahead of me and then me to the 9th hole where there was no one in front of us. Check on my status numerous times and supplied ice cold water bottles thorough the round. Was waiting for me at the 18th green when i arrived, and escorted me back the 5th hole. Was able to play 5 - 9 in no time at all. My entire round took about 3hrs and Alan saved me at least 1.5 hours of waiting on the course. Easily, one of the best players assistants I have ever had on any course. PGA West should give him a raise!!!

Course was in great shape and extremely changeling and enjoyable!

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 5
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Windy weather
Used cart

A great round ruined by slow play

An "un-named" Golf Magazine that preaches how to play fast golf was hosting a tournament which played at a 5:17 pace. Otherwise an excellent place to play

Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Perfect weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 21
Handicap 5-9
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart

it's getting better

The Norman course is always tough. They rebuilt greens, and it's made the course more scoreable. Prior, the difficulty of the layout, along with nearly impossible greens, was not fun. The course was in good condition. When the greens mature, it may be a better track. Time will tell. Staff was fine.

Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing

Finish 3 Minutes early still Marshals came to tell us keep up with group ahead of us.

Worst greens never hold the ball , Finish 3 Minutes early still Marshals came to tell us keep up with group ahead of us. we have to mentioned group ahead of us are 2 sum ! Do you want us to run and finish or 2 of our guys won’t play to keep up to stay behind the group ahead of us, unfortunately we still waiting on few holes for tee off behind that group.

Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Good
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 4
Handicap 15-19
Skill Advanced
Plays Once a month
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Average
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Average
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 12
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Good
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Good
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 206
Handicap 10-14
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Top 100 Contributor
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Tough Course

Course is in terrific shape, staff outstanding. Many tough holes and plenty of sand. Just wasn't expecting 100 degrees in April!

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Extremely Challenging
Played On
Reviews 7
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
3.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Conditions Average
Value Fair
Layout Average
Friendliness Good
Pace Fair
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 14
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Previously Played

Very Nice

The Norman course at PGA West, personally my favorite of the public courses was in wonderful condition, but the greens were incredibly firm. Tee boxes and fairways were lush and green. The greens however were very fast and very hard. Like cart path hard practically. I know they are new and still getting their legs, but time and time again well struck approaches would not hold the greens. I’m sure in due time they will get them dialed in though.

Pace of play was fantastic. Playing Saturday afternoon of the Coachella Music Fest most likely kept the others away. Lucky us, because we had the whole place to ourselves and had a fabulous time. Highly recommend.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 1
3.0
Verified Purchaser
Conditions Fair
Value Average
Layout Average
Friendliness Average
Pace Good
Amenities Average
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once a week
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Average
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Poor
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 2
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Hot weather
Used cart
Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Moderate
Played On
Reviews 5
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played
Conditions Good
Value Good
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Good
Played On
Reviews 7
Handicap 15-19
Skill Intermediate
Plays A few times a week
I Recommend This Course
5.0
Verified Purchaser
First Time Playing
Hot weather
Used cart

Beautiful course

I would play this one again. Water got me a couple of times. Check your on board GPS before you play each hole.

Conditions Excellent
Value Excellent
Layout Excellent
Friendliness Excellent
Pace Excellent
Amenities Excellent
Difficulty Somewhat Challenging
Played On
Reviews 1
Skill Intermediate
Plays Once every three months
I Recommend This Course
4.0
Verified Purchaser
Previously Played

Good course bad directions

Enjoyed the course. More playable after recent renovations. Directions from map it took us to private course clubhouse in PGA West. Frustrating waste of 15-20 minutes.

Conditions Excellent
Value Good
Layout Good
Friendliness Good
Pace Excellent
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